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Old 11-30-2009, 09:35 PM   #21
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As I stated in the previous post, I tow with an Aspen I have no problems it does however have a cushier suspension than the Durango for a more carlike ride. I do have to adjust my hitch to level it out but it hauls fine. Would I be more comfortable with a larger TV maybe but I was not going to buy one just for this. If I was I would have bought a pickup and a 5th wheel!
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I hope nobody minds resurrecting this old thread, but I came across it researching an almost identical issue. If I shouldn't post here, maybe you can direct me or move this to a more current thread.

My son recently bought an old 30' trailer (Travelaire, a now defunct Canadian manufacturer) and in searching for a suitable tow vehicle, got a 2008 Aspen Limited. Now, this isn't the 4.7 the OP mentioned, but the Hemi with 3.92 rear end and full towing package. On seeing the trailer and the Aspen, their neighbour right away said "That won't tow it" and he has a 5th wheel rig and has been towing travel trailers for decades. He said at the very least, to tow a trailer like that you need a load equalizing hitch and sway bars. According to the nameplate the GVWR of the trailer is "4536", so we thought that's well under the Aspen's towing capacity of 8900 lbs, but what if the GVWR is 4536 kilograms? That's 9979 lbs. Sure looks like a bit more than 8900. Crazy thing is that the nameplate doesn't say whether it's lbs or kgs. The trailer is late 1980s as far as we know, after Canada went metric, but everything to do with trailers, hitches, draw bars, balls, etc. is all rated in pounds, which is why we thought the trailer was, but maybe it isn't. Does 4536 or 9979 lbs sound more reasonable for a 30' trailer?

Another question, unless you haven't stopped shaking your heads, can a load distributing hitch even be used on an Aspen? The 2" receiver does not go very deep because of the spare tire. Would such a hitch want to twist the receiver? I see that etrailer.com lists this one.
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:35 PM   #23
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NO WAY does a 30' TT have a GVWR of 4536lbs.
Older RVS have a white factory weight sticker on the inside of a cabinet door.
I'd look for that or get it weighed at a scale.
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Yes, someone else told me there ought to be a weight sticker or something inside a cabinet, but we haven't found one yet. This is the foil sticker on the outside, but it's hard to read.



Just searching for information on new trailers about that size, it sure looks like the GVWR should be 4536 kg (9979 lb).
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NO WAY does a 30' TT have a GVWR of 4536lbs.
Older RVS have a white factory weight sticker on the inside of a cabinet door.
I'd look for that or get it weighed at a scale.
X2!

I see a very well endowed 1/2 ton, or a 3/4 ton, pickup in your son's future.
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Well,with 4 kids, even a crew cab pickup would be inadequate, which is why they went for a big SUV.
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Well,with 4 kids, even a crew cab pickup would be inadequate, which is why they went for a big SUV.
It's not big enough.

SUV's typically have lousy payloads. Get the payload off the sticker on the drivers door frame, subtract the weight of the wife and 4 kids and whatever stuff you're putting in the SUV. Whatever's left is the limit of your TT tongue weight. Assuming the TT's GVWR is 10,000 lbs, you're looking at 1000-1500 lbs tongue weight. If you're using a weight distribution hitch (which you should be), add another 50-100 lbs depending on the model.

Don't have 2008, but 2009 Trailer Life towing guide shows the 2009 Aspen towing capacity as a low of 4,400 lbs (4.7L V8, 2WD Limited) up to 8,900 lbs (5.7L V8, 2WD, Limited with 3.92 axle). Can't speak to payload, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be way over your limit.
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I hope nobody minds resurrecting this old thread, but I came across it researching an almost identical issue. If I shouldn't post here, maybe you can direct me or move this to a more current thread.

My son recently bought an old 30' trailer (Travelaire, a now defunct Canadian manufacturer) and in searching for a suitable tow vehicle, got a 2008 Aspen Limited. Now, this isn't the 4.7 the OP mentioned, but the Hemi with 3.92 rear end and full towing package. On seeing the trailer and the Aspen, their neighbour right away said "That won't tow it" and he has a 5th wheel rig and has been towing travel trailers for decades. He said at the very least, to tow a trailer like that you need a load equalizing hitch and sway bars. According to the nameplate the GVWR of the trailer is "4536", so we thought that's well under the Aspen's towing capacity of 8900 lbs, but what if the GVWR is 4536 kilograms? That's 9979 lbs. Sure looks like a bit more than 8900. Crazy thing is that the nameplate doesn't say whether it's lbs or kgs. The trailer is late 1980s as far as we know, after Canada went metric, but everything to do with trailers, hitches, draw bars, balls, etc. is all rated in pounds, which is why we thought the trailer was, but maybe it isn't. Does 4536 or 9979 lbs sound more reasonable for a 30' trailer?

Another question, unless you haven't stopped shaking your heads, can a load distributing hitch even be used on an Aspen? The 2" receiver does not go very deep because of the spare tire. Would such a hitch want to twist the receiver? I see that etrailer.com lists this one.
I just traded my '08 Aspen Hemi 3.92 for a Wrangler Unlimited.

I have towed the TT in my sig with it with just me in the vehicle. The Aspen has plenty of power to pull it. But with wheelbase at only 119" it didn't feel as secure as my Ram 1500.

My Aspen was loaded with every option except 4x4, so its payload was only 1200 lbs (yellow sticker on door jamb). WDH hitch in my sig worked no problem with it. I already had a Prodigy P2 and just bought their harness to install it, plug and play.

The Aspen mechanics (engine/trans/rear axle) is from the Ram 1500. The chassis is a hybrid using Ram/Dakota components. IMO the Aspen was a great underrated vehicle for what it was, but I would tow a 30+ footer with a bigger truck.
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Don't have 2008, but 2009 Trailer Life towing guide shows the 2009 Aspen towing capacity as a low of 4,400 lbs (4.7L V8, 2WD Limited) up to 8,900 lbs (5.7L V8, 2WD, Limited with 3.92 axle). Can't speak to payload, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be way over your limit.
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The Aspen mechanics (engine/trans/rear axle) is from the Ram 1500. The chassis is a hybrid using Ram/Dakota components. IMO the Aspen was a great underrated vehicle for what it was, but I would tow a 30+ footer with a bigger truck.
This '08 Aspen Limited is a Hemi with 4x4, 3.92 axle and full factory tow package, including HD cooling and trans cooler. But I do realize it will be marginal for the job. Once the trailer has new tires (still has the original cracked and rotted L78x15's) they'll try if for some short trips with a WD/sway control hitch, but they're now totally broke and won't be changing the TT or TV anytime soon. Thanks for the feedback folks.
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Hey Old Yeelr.

Canadian here as well. Nice Strathroy build heavy trailer, cast off from Glendale/Golden Falcon sub industries.

The Travelaire is 9,000 lbs. No way can the aspen tow it. The

Those trailer like the Corsair (made in Hensell) I towed with my Safari are heavy pigs. May I suggest the neighbour friend tow the trailer to a nice spot for them to spend some time then tow it back home.

This weekend I saw a Nissan Armada towing a 30 ft Airstream. backed off the road in the CG, his little SUV could hold the trailer back from hitting the ditch. They were in a pickle, could not unhitch there expensive Hensley Hitch due to the angle. Called a wrecker in to pull them out and he refused to do it as one, was afraid of ripping the Nissan to pieces. When I left to come home they were talking about bringing a crane in to lift the trailer back on the road.

You are just down the road from me. In Woodstock! Not that Woodstock.

What about Pittock or Wildwood? They are close. There is Embryo and Happy Hills as well.
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