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Old 06-24-2014, 04:37 AM   #61
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If you can prove that FR did that, and I don't doubt you at all. I would get a attorney involved and Write a letter to FR show them the pics and keep every part, It would be worth it to me, that's just unacceptable. From your dealer and them. The worst is over now, so good luck. But that is just pure HS.
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Old 06-24-2014, 07:35 AM   #62
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Before everyone gets scared about the wiring on their Tracers, I read through some of the OP's posts, and it looks like he has done heavy modifications to his wiring around the TV area on the Tracer, the same area the fire started...



IMO due to the DIY mods in the same area as the fire [12V cigarette plug & inverter are not stock], Forest River and/or dealers are not going to honor a warranty let-alone do free post-warranty work... Also, IMO, when the OP installed the 110V inverter he should have checked the Stop Short circuits and/or added a fuse just after the battery.
I missed that. You are correct, with these mods, there is no way I would honor a warranty request (if I was the warranty service manager).

There is just too high a risk that this was a mistake made by the owner who is using this forum to "make his case" that this was an FR error (now that it is a very expensive repair).

The modifications made all involve removing and replacing wires very close to the battery where the shortstop is located. Not saying it DID happen, just saying the burden of proof is now on the owner.

Pre-work photos might have shown the original configuration prior to the DIY modifications.
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Old 06-24-2014, 12:49 PM   #63
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Makes more sense and I agree.

The OP would probably never have had a problem with the way it was wired incorrectly IF the switch had not malfunctioned.

IMO, there is no reason for FR to allow a major safety item like that to go out the door. More folks at fault than the tech that made the mistake.
Exactly! Which is why it wasn't a problem in the year under warranty of course! When I talked with the trailer supply store yesterday, they guy said he sells half a dozen of those slide switches each week. They pop and go out. My problem was exaggerated by the shortstop also of course.
Thanks OC for seeing the issue/cause and not passing criticism like some others on this thread!
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Old 06-24-2014, 12:57 PM   #64
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Herk if the dealer put your hitch on wrong and you yourself put on incorrect tires and had an accident on your first trip out when your TT came unhitched and flipped would you blame your tires or the dealers hitch???
Same thing here. My inverter is a VERY minor addition to the TT and is in NO ABSOLUTE WAY involved with the slides or any of the shortstops in the unit. Unless you have a Tracer 3150 and understand the wiring setup or have been underneath mine with me for the last 3 days, suggest you reserve judgement.
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Old 06-24-2014, 01:08 PM   #65
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Sliding deck doors, longer, atrium style windows.
So, stuff that, by design, could not survive frequent road travel?
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I still wished you had reported it to NHTSA, they would have launched an investigation, we really don't need poorly assembled units on the road.
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I still wished you had reported it to NHTSA, they would have launched an investigation, we really don't need poorly assembled units on the road.
My opinion too.
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So, stuff that, by design, could not survive frequent road travel?
I suppose that would be correct.

As I stated some are 12' wide!
You'd have to have a permit to move it.
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X eleventy and to quote Uncle Si; that's a fact Jack!
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With one aside; one should also be prepared to do regular checks and maintenance. That's required of sticks and bricks, and they never move....unless ya live in CA.
Agreed - like the warning label sez above your tires "must be checked with appropriate torque wrench at 100Ft-Lbs BEFORE each trip and after any heavy braking." (whatever that means )

That said, and as the token rocket scientist <G> of the group, I would be thunderstruck if FR designers did not take into account vibration, harmonics, pitch and yaw stresses and temperature when designing a RV. These are just the basics and no engineer worth his/her salt would ever design something without taking these basic facts into account.

As it turns out, building a RV is similar to building a satellite

A prime contractor (FR) subs out components that will be installed in the prime contractor’s framework (insert your RV model number here.)

This is precisely how we design satellites and other space systems!
The single point of failure it seems (and this issue is case in point) is the Product integration process.


QC in the Space Industry is Bat***** Crazy Anal Retentive! We often QC the QC Superviser who QC's the QC'er No, economics would not permit that in the RV industry but a good QC program and a Lean-Six-Sigma champion would do wonders!

Space Trivia: We call the designed “framework” for a space system a "BUS!"…coincidence? Perhaps not.

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As me old mammy use to say, "I'd raise Hell and put a chunk under it"


Hmmm...we will be really REALLY close to the Mother Ship at Goshen...wonder if FROG Bob would be willing to set up a roundtable forum with FR management...
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I suppose that would be correct.

As I stated some are 12' wide!
You'd have to have a permit to move it.
True, true...12' wide could never travel - my tongue-in-cheek comment is more fully explained in my last post
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