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Old 08-03-2016, 12:05 AM   #31
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Traded my 2015 Ram 3500 with the 6.4 liter gas motor for a 2015 Ram 3500 diesel with the Aisin transmission. The 6.4 actually did a good job towing my 5er but I have had diesel envy for too long now! I'm a little worried about all of the DEF bs but I'll just have to deal.
No worries about the DEF. Just be sure it is fresh. Old DEF burns out very quickly. I discovered this when I bought my EcoDiesel that sat on the dealer's lot for about a year. My DEF gauge went from full to 1/4 in 350 miles!! After I filled the tank I found that I have to add a 2 1/2 gallon jug every 5000 miles or so. You can pick up a jug at Walmart for about $8. Just check the date it was manufactured. It should not be over 6 months old.

You'll LOVE your diesel. I know I'll never go back!
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Old 08-03-2016, 06:22 AM   #32
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It's my understanding the DEF is used for cleaning the exhaust filter, it gets injected after a set number of hours of operation and has nothing to do with lowering pollution itself at least that is the case on the F450 and John Deere tractors I have used.
Not true in any tier 4 emissions system! The DEF is injected into the SCR where a chemical reaction takes place to remove NOX. To clean the exhaust filter a small fuel injector in the DPF injects fuel to burn off the accumulated soot. This system is far and away better than the old systems which used to over fuel the motor to get fuel to the DPF for cleaning... as doing this was causing high fuel in the oil levels and washing down cylinders.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:01 AM   #33
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It's my understanding the DEF is used for cleaning the exhaust filter, it gets injected after a set number of hours of operation and has nothing to do with lowering pollution itself at least that is the case on the F450 and John Deere tractors I have used.
You have been told wrong. DEF has nothing to do with the exhaust filter. Injecting extra diesel along with heat cleans the exhaust filter. DEF has everything to do with lowering pollution. It converts NOx into harmless nitrogen and water.
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Old 08-03-2016, 12:40 PM   #34
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I'm on my 3rd Chev diesel and the def is no bother. I will never go back to gas
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Old 08-06-2016, 08:51 AM   #35
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We live in the Lake George area, what campground are you going to? There are some pretty nice ones here.
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Going to Moose Hillock. We went last year and the kids love it. There is so much to do there we spent a week last year and ran out of time so it's more like 10 days this year.
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Old 08-06-2016, 09:33 AM   #36
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Agree with all the comments on DEF vs non-DEF trucks. My '11 is non, and my buddy's '14 has DEF, and what a difference. His has 850 #/ft of torque, mine has 600-- because the DEF trucks can be tuned "hotter" due to the improved emissions control. And he gets better mileage than I do!

+1 for Moose Hillock. Real nice CG, stayed there in June for Americade. Huge sites! Have fun, congrats on the new truck. I may be joining you in "3500 DEF land" soon...��
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:26 AM   #37
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Sorry.... The expensive DPF is considered a consumable and is not covered by warranty.
DEF cost is less than $3.00/gal when pumped from bulk at any truck stop. I get over 900mi/gal of DEF and pull my 9,000+ lb 5er almost exactly 1/2 of all miles I drive. So...

My DEF cost/mile is right at 1/3rd of one cent. I might have to rejoin the workforce to support my diesel habit!
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Sorry.... The expensive DPF is considered a consumable and is not covered by warranty.

So you know all? Well with my service plan the DEF is covered for 7 years. Please be careful what you assume is someone else's plan.
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So you know all? Well with my service plan the DEF is covered for 7 years. Please be careful what you assume is someone else's plan.
I think what NMWildcat was talking about is that the DPF (Diesel Particular Filter) is not covered. Most consider it to be like brakes and they wear out. May or may not be covered under anyone's maintenance plan. Just depends on what you bought. They are expensive to replace and on my Ford it the big torpedo like thing in the exhaust system.

The DEF fluid is usually filled by dealers when you do an oil change and is very little cost.
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FWIW, my 2016 Ram 2500 Cummins gobbles the DEF when I'm towing my fiver, and burns pretty much nothing when I'm not towing.
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