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01-09-2016, 12:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Originally Posted by Paulie1138
I have to add....for what these things cost new, they are awful in terms of "WORKMANSHIP" and some of the materials used! Sure, they look great.....until you see the mounds of sawdust inside air conditioning vents, piles of debris when you remove the drawers, the unnecessary tangled mass of wires, some ran so tightly, it is only a matter of time until it pulls out from the connection, slide control mechanisms hidden away such you have to take everything apart to get to it just to reset it. Where is the quality control inspector?- or do they go out of their way to create guaranteed service calls down the road? Rant over!
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This July I moved into a $200,000 house. I pulled the dishwasher out to see if there was an outlet there so I could easily add a disposal to the sink, not only is the dishwasher hard wired, which is stupid, but the scene under the dishwasher was a pile of sawdust, nails, two random chunks of 2X4.
So the workmanship and attention to detail isn't lacking in just the RV world.
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Then-2002 Keystone Springdale 286RLDS TT
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01-09-2016, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 71
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Oh I love to tinker and fix things but not when the are brand stinkin new.
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01-09-2016, 02:40 PM
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#5983
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
Posts: 15,649
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Hands stay cleaner though....
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01-09-2016, 10:04 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Lafayette, IN
Posts: 91
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Completed installation of a Maxxfan Deluxe to replace the standard unpowered vent in the kitchen. Since the range hood doesn't vent to the outside, I'm hopeful this mod adequately exhausts cooking smoke/odors. I hoped to find 12V wiring in the opening left by he standard vent. All I found was 110V to the A/C and speaker wire. Routed fan hook-up through foam insulation to one of the pendant lights over the island. Lights are controlled from wall switch, so I added mini switches to the trim on each light. That way, the lights and Maxxfan can be controlled independently. This project was completed after receiving good advice from aceinspp and Timex on this forum.
Several days ago, I added the FOS48TA-BL Furrion Observation Camera into the factory-installed mounting bracket. Rather than use the supplied monitor bracket with its suction cup, I just attached the monitor to my rear view mirror with a pair of elastic bands. Simple, easy to adjust, takes no additional windshield "real estate," and puts my "rear view" right where I expect to find it.
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2016 Flagstaff V-Lite 30WRLIKS [sold]
2012 F-150 XLT Screw 3.5L EB, 3.55
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01-10-2016, 09:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 557
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Started out cleaning out the back flow preventer on the water pump but ended up spending four hours shortening the heat duct and creating more room. I was able to cut off 4' on each of the four flexible and eliminating the duct spaghetti mess. Spray foamed all floor openings and moved three walls 6" back creating more room in what was wasted space.
Today I'm adding a 120 volt outlet in the hallway that I be able to plug into the 120 v 20 amp pedestal given us more power while on a 30 amp circuit.
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01-10-2016, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sierra360PDEK
Started out cleaning out the back flow preventer on the water pump but ended up spending four hours shortening the heat duct and creating more room. I was able to cut off 4' on each of the four flexible and eliminating the duct spaghetti mess. Spray foamed all floor openings and moved three walls 6" back creating more room in what was wasted space.
Today I'm adding a 120 volt outlet in the hallway that I be able to plug into the 120 v 20 amp pedestal given us more power while on a 30 amp circuit.
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I've given serious thought to doing the same thing in my basement. There's lots of wasted space behind the walls.
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Then-2002 Keystone Springdale 286RLDS TT
Nights camped in 2014-28, 2015-127, 2016-10
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01-10-2016, 10:57 AM
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Canadian Contingent
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Euro-Recliner
Posts: 196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SKnight
the dishwasher hard wired, which is stupid
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Just an FYI, Hardwiring the dishwasher in a residential application is a building code.
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2011 Cedar Creek Touring Edition 36RE 3 slide Full Body Paint pushing our 2015 Ram 3500 Laramie 4x4 CCSB SRW - Anderson Ultimate Hitch
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01-10-2016, 11:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogpatch
Just an FYI, Hardwiring the dishwasher in a residential application is a building code.
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Well dang. I'm learning all sorts of new code with this place.
Thanks for the info, guess I'll have to get creative if I want to install my disposal.
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Then-2002 Keystone Springdale 286RLDS TT
Nights camped in 2014-28, 2015-127, 2016-10
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01-10-2016, 11:40 AM
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#5989
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,183
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SKnight
Well dang. I'm learning all sorts of new code with this place.
Thanks for the info, guess I'll have to get creative if I want to install my disposal.
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Don't see why you couldn't add a duplex box & plug right next to the dw junction. Piggy back the dw wiring.
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2014 Ram 2500 CTD, CC, SB
2014 8289WS lifted
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01-10-2016, 11:51 AM
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Canadian Contingent
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Euro-Recliner
Posts: 196
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The reason the dishwasher AND the garbourator are hardwired by code is because both are situated near a water source. Having a duplex plug outlet could/would be suceptible to spraying water and short out.
It's for your protection!
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01-10-2016, 11:54 AM
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#5991
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Big brown desert
Posts: 3,003
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Yesterdays project was visiting Woodstock at storage yard, pairing up my Honda 2000's and letting them run, changed the thermostat as the lcd screen didn't like getting zapped by static electricity, finished running LED lights in cabinets, and removed bat wing antenna and replace with the sensar King jack head.
2014 Evo 2850 "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra "Clifford"
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2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7- "Clifford"
2013 Honda Accord Coupe V6 w/Track Pack- "Julia"
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01-10-2016, 11:59 AM
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#5992
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HONDAMAN174
Yesterdays project was visiting Woodstock at storage yard, pairing up my Honda 2000's and letting them run, changed the thermostat as the lcd screen didn't like getting zapped by static electricity, finished running LED lights in cabinets, and removed bat wing antenna and replace with the sensar King jack head.
2014 Evo 2850 "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra "Clifford"
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So, how did the Honds work out
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01-10-2016, 03:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Big brown desert
Posts: 3,003
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Took about 6 pulls each to get them going as it has been about 3 months since I had run them. Tried to load them up by turning on all the lights but I had switched to led so was only pulling 5 amps. Was able to run a/c for about 10 minutes before it got to below 55 degrees inside and shut off. I usually only take one unit with me when camping but always ready to pair up in emergency.
2014 Evo 2850 "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra "Clifford"
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2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7- "Clifford"
2013 Honda Accord Coupe V6 w/Track Pack- "Julia"
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01-10-2016, 04:40 PM
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#5994
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 10,907
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SKnight
This July I moved into a $200,000 house. I pulled the dishwasher out to see if there was an outlet there so I could easily add a disposal to the sink, not only is the dishwasher hard wired, which is stupid, but the scene under the dishwasher was a pile of sawdust, nails, two random chunks of 2X4.
So the workmanship and attention to detail isn't lacking in just the RV world.
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Bought my house in 1983 (it was 12 yrs old then). Remodeled the kitchen before I moved in. Pulled the range hood down and discovered that the duct went up into the soffet and stopped. Well, that explained the greasy rings around all my electrical outlet face plates!!.
Went into the attic to extend the duct for the new range hood outside and thought, where's the duct for the bathroom fan? Of course, there wasn't one. That explained the peeling wall paper in the bathroom!!!!
First winter was -26 deg F. Outside corner of my family room had ice in it. Next summer I replaced the paneling in the room and discovered they'd put NO insulation in the corner.
So I'm pretty darn happy with my Micro Lite!!! No real issues at this point.
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2012 Roo19 - hybrid (2012-2015)
2016 Mini Lite 2503S - tt (2015 - ???)
2011 Traverse LT, 3.6L, FWD
2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
2016 Silverado 2500HD Dbl Cab, 6.0L 4x4, 4.10
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01-11-2016, 12:19 AM
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#5995
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoneDude 8289
Don't see why you couldn't add a duplex box & plug right next to the dw junction. Piggy back the dw wiring.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogpatch
The reason the dishwasher AND the garbourator are hardwired by code is because both are situated near a water source. Having a duplex plug outlet could/would be suceptible to spraying water and short out.
It's for your protection!
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I'm thinking about adding a junction box and hardwiring the disposal in with the DW. I probably should look into local code to see if that's okay.
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Then-2002 Keystone Springdale 286RLDS TT
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01-11-2016, 05:02 AM
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#5996
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
Posts: 10,422
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SKnight
I'm thinking about adding a junction box and hardwiring the disposal in with the DW. I probably should look into local code to see if that's okay.
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That would work and still pass code, as long as the wire and breaker to the dish washer is big enough. Common installation would be to tie in a junction box to a wall switch to operate the disposal. then to a duplex under the sink that the disposal would then plug into. If you look at the DW connection the box is built in where your 110 volt connects. I know of no code that requires a home run for a dishwasher or garbage disposal. In most cases they use the same circuit. So really you would be adding a switch in the wall or face of the sink cabinet to a duplex that you plug the garbage disposal in so you can turn it on when needed. I would bet that the DW is on a 15 amp breaker now. If your worried about water hitting the duplex just use a GFI for your disposal plug....
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Concord
2018 / 300 DSC
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01-11-2016, 05:29 AM
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#5997
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
Posts: 10,422
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sierra360PDEK
Started out cleaning out the back flow preventer on the water pump but ended up spending four hours shortening the heat duct and creating more room. I was able to cut off 4' on each of the four flexible and eliminating the duct spaghetti mess. Spray foamed all floor openings and moved three walls 6" back creating more room in what was wasted space.
Today I'm adding a 120 volt outlet in the hallway that I be able to plug into the 120 v 20 amp pedestal given us more power while on a 30 amp circuit.
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I bet your getting better air flow to now. Good for you. It seems that the factory thinks one size fits all, it's all pre made and they will use the same pre made up design if your unit is a 32' or a 38' which creates that mess and low air flows. ..
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01-11-2016, 10:14 AM
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#5998
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Canadian Contingent
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Euro-Recliner
Posts: 196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
Bought my house in 1983 (it was 12 yrs old then). Remodeled the kitchen before I moved in. Pulled the range hood down and discovered that the duct went up into the soffet and stopped. Well, that explained the greasy rings around all my electrical outlet face plates!!.
Went into the attic to extend the duct for the new range hood outside and thought, where's the duct for the bathroom fan? Of course, there wasn't one. That explained the peeling wall paper in the bathroom!!!!
First winter was -26 deg F. Outside corner of my family room had ice in it. Next summer I replaced the paneling in the room and discovered they'd put NO insulation in the corner.
So I'm pretty darn happy with my Micro Lite!!! No real issues at this point.
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Speaking of codes. Your exhaust piping for your hood fan and bath fan if it runs in the attic should be insulated as well otherwise escaping heat meeting cold air will cause condensation and drip back to your device causing wet areas.
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01-11-2016, 07:10 PM
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#5999
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Where ever the trailer is parked
Posts: 112
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Trying to figure out what is wrong with this piece of $%#@ Onan QE 5500 EVAP GEN. It worked just fine when I bought the RV but about 6 months later it would not start from inside of the RV so I took it to the Onan dealer, they got it so it would start from inside, but now it will not run the AC,( which it did before) and I have to play with it to get it to run the Microwave. They said it needed to be run (that's when it had 150 hrs now it has 482 hrs) and it still runs the same. Sometimes it runs OK when there is no load, but with a load it starts bobbling and popping. Sometimes it starts then runs a minute or two, then shuts down, sometimes it runs a couple of seconds and shuts down, then sometimes it will run for hours. It is driving me up a wall. Saturday I when out to boondock and I could not keep it running for more than 15 seconds and it would shut down, so I had to go back to the RV park, today I started it and it did the something. So I drove to town to get some parts, and when I got back with the parts I tried starting it and it running, like it normally runs. it been running for an hour and a half now. I am think about pulling it out and in stalling solar panels on the roof and installing batteries where the gen. is at now, and install an inverter, for the 120 volt ac.
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01-11-2016, 07:17 PM
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#6000
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 10,907
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogpatch
Speaking of codes. Your exhaust piping for your hood fan and bath fan if it runs in the attic should be insulated as well otherwise escaping heat meeting cold air will cause condensation and drip back to your device causing wet areas.
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It is.
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2016 Mini Lite 2503S - tt (2015 - ???)
2011 Traverse LT, 3.6L, FWD
2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
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