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Old 11-12-2010, 08:46 PM   #1
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Why does quality vary so much?

I notice some posters really bashing their camper. They seem to have multiple problems with just about every aspect of their camper. I can understand maybe having trouble with a certain area but the whole camper? I have not had any problem with my 2011 5th in the first year of use. Maybe the trouble some campers were made on Friday?

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Old 11-12-2010, 09:43 PM   #2
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Well I notice the same thing too and some is justify. I have had my 2010 wildcat for a over a year now, with no real problems. Some of the problem maybe from not taking a good look at the trailer when you pick it up. I take care of the small problem & don't sweat it, you are going to have that with any rig. I think there will all way be that FRIDAY RIG & that one who can't be pleased .

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Old 11-12-2010, 09:58 PM   #3
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I bought a fiver in 08 and again this year. I saw a definite improvement in fit and finish, and fewer problems. Maybe Warren Buffett is cracking the whip?
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:29 PM   #4
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My 08 V lite 30 footer trailer has been very good to us, 3 years now. Sure, a few fuses have blown, and one Concertone went out, but other than that, it's been great. The few construction issues- hanging door track came loose, and the under bed plywood came loose from the bedframe(nails into an aluminum frame?) I fixed myself, and made it better than before. I try to do that with every fix and modification. Randy
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Old 11-13-2010, 05:41 AM   #5
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Same here, we have a '09 Wolf Pack 285 and the only issue was when the fuel transfer pump went out and that was covered by the extended warranty. But other than the pump going out, our 5er has been great. There's the usual loose screw here and there, but as I fix it, I make better and stronger.

We had pack rats get into the underbelly this past summer, which cancelled our annual Labor Day camping trip because of the damage that the little gritters did, but I'm hoping I solved that issue with traps.
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Old 11-13-2010, 06:16 AM   #6
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I know this is an RV forum and I am not going to go on a rant here but to be honest, there are bad products from just about every sector of manufacturing and I cannot say why. For example many many people love their Dodge trucks but we bought a brand new 2008 Ram 2500 Laramie Megacab in 08 ( the only things it doesn't have is a sun roof, nav and rear seat DVD) this truck in the first 27 months and 100,000km has been in the shop 45 times.. Yes averaging almost 2 trips a month for everything from windshild wiper motors to well exhaust manifolds. So you can see it isn't just FR that has bad days.

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Old 11-13-2010, 06:38 AM   #7
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Small things are caught with in the first year and are repair under warrenty, and some times you can see them prior to delievery, however as you travel around pulling your camper and depending how much you travel things start to get loose from the twisting of the rig. Inspection of the rig prior to buying does not workall the time.

Examble: I bought a 2006 Rockwood 8314ss new, at the time of pick up from the dealer all was perfect the camper was in my driveway for 8 days now the camper camper came right to the house and no where else we were loading it up for our first trip. I came home from work and noticed a small bubble on the extrior wall just in front of the front door, from the time i called the dealer about it to the time they got back to me with and answer the bubble had grown 8" this was two days after. To make a long story short i was in a position to make the dealer give me another brand new rig.

The rig i have now is the same model and two weeks after the warrenty was up i started with bubbles on the intrior walls and the camper has been going down hill ever since. So you may say to yourself why don't i trade it in, well the fact is i paid $21,000 for this rig and for the same floor plan it would cost around $30,000 for a 2011....So why buy new, they are still built the same way, and no improvement....It's just an indication of bad luck on my part.

As far as the high end rigs, they have there problems as well. I was up set over all of this, but i learned a lesson. My firat camper was back in 2000 it was a Fleetwood and for the 5 years i had it,i never had any problems so we moved up in the world an bought a Rockwood ....and that is the end of that story my luck had changed.

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Old 11-13-2010, 06:56 AM   #8
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I am with Rockwood 06 ,100%! Youroo!!
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:06 AM   #9
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One other thing i would like to point out, this makes it hard for newbies, when they get into RVing and buy there first rig they have no clue what to look for and if they get a bad rig this will put a bad taste in there mouth for camping.

This forum is a great place to learn, just read the post and ask question, in my mine this the best way to go. It's not right to send your money on something that breaks down in a short priod of time. It is what it is and unfortunately lessons are learn by experience. I have been camping for 10 years now and i still learn from the members here.
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:43 AM   #10
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Sometimes those who complain, and I have been one, about small issues, have so many at one time, continuously, that in itself becomes a large problem. When you add in problems like delamination due to a bad batch of glue used during manufacturing you're then, more or less, sitting there helplessly watching your tt deteriorate in front of your eyes. Now throw in some more of those small issues and each one becomes just another issue to deal with when you already have more than you can handle. Most of these problems are not there or at least don't show themselves during your intial PDI.
I was left watching mine fall apart in front of me. FR did extend my warranty a year and they did fix everything under warranty, but the problems continued with no end in sight and I was told, "Don't worry, we'll continue to fix your trailer until the warranty expires". That just didn't give me too much peace of mind. Not enough to be able to relax and enjoy the trailer. While packing for trips I was always checking what tools I took, trying to be prepared for what problems I would run into. While camping I was always preocupied checking things so I could catch problems before they got too big. So much for rest and relaxation and enjoying time with your family.
I guess my point to all of this is, while there may be a lot of complaints on this forum, I realize most are made by only a few of us. Most of you look at your tt's and how well they perform and how well things are holding up and you naturally think, at least in the back of your mind, they must not be taking very good care of their tt or they didn't inspect it very well when they picked it up. While that may be true in some cases, there are those of us, like rockwood06 and myself, who do take pride in what we own and do the best we can to keep it up. You eventually reach the point where it's just too much and/or too big of a problem for us to handle. At $25k it becomes a pretty expensive headache.
Now as to the OP's question, IMHO every manufactuer can and will produce a lemon. The degree in which quality assurance is performed will determine as to how many lemons get produced.


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