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Old 07-26-2016, 08:24 AM   #21
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Well you said it.
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Ok, rethink of my post...

While this is absurd, there is still a constitution and this is not a legal stop by any local authority (been there done that...). A gentleman was arrested in DC after a car stop. They requested either a search or they saw a single bullet on his floor board (plain sight). He was arrested for having unregistered ammo. So laws can be very weird. I believe he was from PA and just driving down the highway to pass through.

There is NO national gun registry that is false (unless it is class 3 other NFA devices). There is ways to know or find if someone has a carry permit. Some states maintain logs of what firearms you may have but not the US. If you were stopped (which actually DID happen along the Baltimore Tunnel by the tunnel police) just because a tag was run by cops, not the cameras.. The owner was found to HAVE a carry permit. He was stopped and pulled out of the car and searched. This was found illegal and the police paid for it. The constitution does exist.. Though it is read differently in different parts of the US.

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Old 07-26-2016, 08:26 AM   #22
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Travel at your own risk, I am done with this thread, I try and offer my knowledge and I get ridiculed

BTW, this thread will be closed in the near future because of sarcasm...

well wannabee clowns. you will lhave ruined information for others once again

Hope your proud or your great accomplishment to society,,,NOT

Well it looks like you took your ball and went home?

Lets see......you made a statement that did not make any sense and frankly is a load of BS......A few members questioned it, and you responded with.....

"The biggest problem with this forum is people who DONT have a clue having to put in their two cents worth "

Sarcasm you say?
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:35 AM   #23
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Of course I live out west where according to some we still fight Indians and form posses, but I always leave home with my CC permit and my two best friends Mr Smith and Mr Wesson for that rare moment. Many of my RV acquaintenances do the same and have for years and years. To my current knowlege, none of us have encountered a problem with our practice although none of us walk around with twin bandoleers on.
LOL!! I love talking guns with guys from back east or CA for the same reasons you described dieselguy! I live in NM where open carry is allowed most places. I own several handguns and too many 'long' guns to count. I usually have a short, but legal, shotgun in the RV and a pistol in the truck. Do I ever brandish them... no. Have I carried them across the US with no problems, Yes!

At this time in history trying to sort out all the firearm laws in each state is near impossible. I would rather have a gun when needed and be tried for not having a piece of paper than be at the mercy of some thug.

We live 45 miles from Mexico who has some the strictest gun laws on the planet. But guess who also has one of the highest death by firearm stats?

I will probably break down and get a CC license this year or next, but then that means I'll have to buy a registered pistol. Registration just goes against my better judgement
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:36 AM   #24
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I wouldn't worry bout any of this. Most of y'all don't need any fire arms anyhow your just gonna hurt your selves
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:38 AM   #25
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This will probably spark up some conversation and maybe not.

What are the laws and thoughts about bringing a gun (in the camper) on trips through different states? I have a retired Police friend who said it is Ok to carry a gun in the camper as it is an extension of your home. I find this hard to believe but was wondering what the forum folks think on this subject.

Please no nasty comments.

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As said many times there is MANY LAWS across the 50 states. The burden is on YOU to know them. Your retired LEO friend MAY be able to follow a different set of "rules" due to his retired status. Active LEOs may carry anywhere in the USA and its territories with little restriction retired is about the same (if not the same) so keep this in mind. My guess you are talking handgun?

Handgunlaw.us or the NRA is good source to stay up to date on the laws, which change a lot. They have been changing for the better though it seems. If you do not have a carry permit or one that does not have reciprocity in the state it typically needs to be unloaded and secured in a locked container with the ammo separate. While the Federal Law MAY protect you (it is very specific on how and when it works) it is for an UNLOADED firearm.

Long arms MAY be treated different in your state. Here is PA you can carry a rifle in your vehicle, but unloaded only, even with a carry permit. If it is loaded you violate a game law ((weird)) but that is how it is... In another state a shotgun may be OK but certain styles of riffles may be illegal due to being banned.

So as you can see it is NOT very cut and dry. Unfortunately the tried by 12 mentality may work until you get caught for something silly then end up in prison. Also keep in mind the idea of self defense is VERY different even in the courts across the US. On the left coast the current SUPREME COURT ruling is you have NO right to carry a firearm in public for self defense only reason. Here the Supreme COurt rules you DO have a right... Very strange..
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Check the rules for each state you are in. Stopping you just because you have an out of state plate and a carry permit is profiling and not legal in any state there has to be probable cause.

If you put your carry in a lock box or unload it you may as well carry a rock in your pocket.
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Great thread stay cool like when you carry.
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Great thread stay cool like when you carry.
I agree. But like the diesel thread (yeah I went there) people get passionate about it. Those who hate guns will get political and testy, those who like them get political and testy right back.. Then the lock comes. False truths are made both ways from some fact and a lot of fiction..

It is a hot topic but with millions s of RVs on the road and even more people with firearms I think it is a real world and important topic. As long as it stay civil, which in my experience it either does not or the site just locks it because it could get sideways.

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This is not that hard.

Yes, the US Constitution has a 4th Amendment, and police can't just decide to stop you because you are driving down the road. Probable Cause is a tried and true legal concept that applies to all citizens.

But, each state does decide what is allowed as far as "open carry", and "carrying while traveling" and "what each requires to get a license in THEIR state to carry concealed" and "what reciprocity they will and won't accept with each state where you might possess a CCW license".

Those four things are the variables, and in a GENERAL sense, New York and Maryland are quite strict in all four. Illinois, and other states are more restrictive. And of course, Canada is a whole 'nuther country, and C-68 or whatever it is up there, applies. Their laws are their laws.

That said, the Days are Different lately........so you'll have to decide for yourself how far away the police are when you encounter a situation. You have rights, but they are not absolute. You also have a brain and a responsibility.

That's my two cents. As for me, I'll say this.

Mr. Government, as you read this, I don't own any weapons. I have some that were once registered with NCIC, but I gave them all to some homeless people. I don't have any ammo or anything. I think they're too dangerous, and I might drop one on my foot, so they're all gone.

And lastly, I keep SMH when I see folks ask for threads to be closed. Why? Disagreement is gonna happen, especially on 'hot topics'. So long as folks don't cuss/yell/ridicule, why close it? Just don't read it if bothers you. That is also my opinion.
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I use an app called CCW which allow me to type in my permits and determine where I am legal and where I am not. It also provides useful information such as duty to inform. In Missouri, you are not required to tell a law officer that you are carrying, in Indiana, you must.

beyond that, realize that certain items regardless of legality in one state are prohibited in another. Magazines that allow a certain amount of bullets or Hollow points.
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