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Old 07-26-2016, 10:06 AM   #31
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As said many times there is MANY LAWS across the 50 states. The burden is on YOU to know them. Your retired LEO friend MAY be able to follow a different set of "rules" due to his retired status. Active LEOs may carry anywhere in the USA and its territories with little restriction retired is about the same (if not the same) so keep this in mind. My guess you are talking handgun?

Handgunlaw.us or the NRA is good source to stay up to date on the laws, which change a lot. They have been changing for the better though it seems. If you do not have a carry permit or one that does not have reciprocity in the state it typically needs to be unloaded and secured in a locked container with the ammo separate. While the Federal Law MAY protect you (it is very specific on how and when it works) it is for an UNLOADED firearm.

Long arms MAY be treated different in your state. Here is PA you can carry a rifle in your vehicle, but unloaded only, even with a carry permit. If it is loaded you violate a game law ((weird)) but that is how it is... In another state a shotgun may be OK but certain styles of riffles may be illegal due to being banned.

So as you can see it is NOT very cut and dry. Unfortunately the tried by 12 mentality may work until you get caught for something silly then end up in prison. Also keep in mind the idea of self defense is VERY different even in the courts across the US. On the left coast the current SUPREME COURT ruling (9th circuit maybe?) is you have NO right to carry a firearm in public for self defense only reason. Here in the 1st judicial district the Supreme COurt rules you DO have a right... Very strange..
I agree with most, but be careful of handgunlaw.US. Good general site, but I highly recommend checking the state's website for weapons carry. The info on Handgunlaw for ID is technically incorrect by state law for RV carry.

And be careful when visiting national parks, national forests and BLM lands. Since they follow the laws of the state they are located in, if the park, forest cross over into different states, you might be legal in one, but illegal in another. (Note: some national parks have multiple juristictions. Canyon De Chelly is controlled by the Feds and also the Navajo Nation, and from my understanding you might want to follow Navajo law and place the gun in the glovebox or trunk just to be safe.

Example is Yellowstone. If you have a permit from any State to carry concealed you are legal in the ID part of the park, but you might NOT be legal in MT or WY (ID recognizes all State issued permits, MT and WY only recognize certain State permits), the same is true of National Forests and BLM lands, and they do not always have a sign stating you are crossing into another state.

I know some Federal Law Enforcement Rangers who have nailed people for carrying illegally on Federal lands (Park, Forest and BLM) cause the person did not pay attention to the State they were in. They were NOT stopped for gun carry (unless it was open), they were stopped for other reasons and the Ranger became aware of the gun at that time.

And be careful in Indian reservations. Example; Navajo Nation Monument Valley...place it in the trunk or glove box. However, you can carry legally on the major highways that go through a reservation such as Hwy 163 through Monument Valley as long as you remain on the state's right of way.
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You are correct. All these sites are for reference only.. Only as good as the person who maintains them. These laws can and sometimes do change daily. This includes the states Web sites.. Sadly. We have things (not gun related) that are illegal and enforced in PA that is not on the Web page that shows the crimes code (what we call our book of laws) because the site has not been updated this year.

I just got dinged by my Township for not having a work permit. I was told to follow the Web page and complete the forms as applicable by the Township. I did and found I was exempt from the permit. A week later the enforcement officer showed up and cited me, the Web page is wrong... But I get dinged.. So!

That being said they are a good reference but a phone call might be needed.. But that might not even be good.. Could be the district attorney you are speaking to or his janitor.. It's a pain.

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As long as you stay on the Interstate Freeway system and do not get off for any reason at all, Federal laws allow you to legally transport through an illegal state as long as you are coming from a state that is legal and going to a another state that is also legal.

New York is a really big state.
Please reply to this with the applicable regulation that allows this. The individual states have control over the Interstate systems within their own borders so I am a bit skeptical.

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Old 07-26-2016, 11:41 AM   #34
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18 U.S. Code § 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

RED: This means you must be legal to own that gun in the state you start in, and legal in the state you are going to end up in.
So, if the gun is legal in North Carolina, but NOT legal in CA, it would not be legal under the Code. And that is all I will say on this...

There is NO stipulation that you must transport via interstate hwys, you could legally do it on county roads.

MOST STATES, would have NO problem if you stopped to fillup, or have something to eat. Some states would consider a motel stop OK, since once you enter the hotel/motel it is considered a part-time residence. (BUT THAT CAN BE INTERPRETED BY STATE LAWS AND COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS.)

At one time, NY state was arresting people who were flying LEGALLY with a gun in their checked baggage and stopped over either to switch planes and they left the airport with their baggage and gun, or were stranded in NYC with their baggage and gun. SO it can get very tricky. (Not sure if they continue to do so due to lawsuits. But NOT sure).

However, that is why it is desirable to avoid some states.

Another example was before the new laws in IL, someone transporting a gun per Title 18 in the northern part of the state might encounter problems you would not encounter in southern IL.

And NJ used to be notorious for arresting people tranporting guns via Title 18; state troopers would arrest, hold, but the prosecutor would just throw it out. They were sued many times since it was total harassment by the state troopers.

So even though Federal law allows it, some states will push it to the max and harass you which will end up costing time and expense.
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We always carry wherever we travel, but my wife and I are active police officers. I still contacted the rangers when we traveled to Yosemite. It can be a sticky subject with others though.
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We always carry wherever we travel, but my wife and I are active police officers. I still contacted the rangers when we traveled to Yosemite. It can be a sticky subject with others though.
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Thank you all for your contributions in this sensitive thread. Lots of pertinent information here. Being retired Leo myself, I was tempted to offer some information also, but it appears anything I could have offered has been covered.
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Good thread ! Thanks for the info !
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I won't comment either way on ShermanD's post, but I wills say that handgunlaw.us is the best source of info available. It is continually updated as laws change. I check it each time I leave my home state. And no, I won't be spending my time or money in the northeast.


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A big "Thank You" to you and your wife for your service!
It's a pleasure. Thank you back for caring. I'm not worried about me, but I do worry about my wife. Thankfully she's crime scene now so not always at the front lines.
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