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Old 07-18-2018, 10:09 AM   #1
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Grump Alert: camp apps, drones, loud music, generators, etc

Does anyone else miss the “good ol’ days” of camping where campers were quiet without generators/music, enjoyed the outdoors without flying their drones, left with whatever trash they brought, and finding that beautiful dispersed campsite required a bit of work but rewarded you with serenity? It seems that apps like Allstays, Campendium, etc have brought more people than the land can withstand, and too many of those visitors aren’t treating the land well either.
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I don't think the apps have done that. The half a million RV sales a year, with no real increase in the number of campgrounds have done it. More people vying for the same space.

Though, yes, I do agree that campground etiquette is disappearing.
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Nope. Time and progress marches on and I really like all the cool new technology there is today. Sure, there's the random jerk who misuses and abuses these things but I still really enjoy all of it.
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Has nothing to do with apps.

For many years, 10,000 people are retiring EVERY day. Still going on. Maybe increasing. Huge percentage are buying RV's. Natural selection says some percentage of those are not considerate.

Most are, though.

I am sitting in Amish country, and see buggies going down the road all the time. It's hard for me to pull a huge trailer with a huge truck that uses diesel fuel refined from oil, and travel the country with it, and then not find the Good in new technology like Apps or such.

It's not the gun that kills, nor the drugs that destroy, nor the technology that is addictive, nor new tools that cause problems. It's choices people make.
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Amen, BandJCarm!
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I'm not sure many people know about those apps anyway, judging by the number of people here asking about how to find campgrounds, dumps, gas stations, gps, etc.


Camping or RVing? Is there a difference? The problem with the word camping is people think it means one thing. Like tents or pop-ups or no slides or no generators, etc.



We used to do all those things, tents, campfires, etc. We moved on to RVing, I said, "on" not "up." I could care less what people use. I realized I wanted "all of it." The ability to build a campfire, go fishing, make s'mores and travel into a city for a while and have "our" stuff their as opposed to hotels.

Education and respect plain and simple and it starts at home from age Zero. Unfortunately we have become "throw-away" society and it's translating to everything, including the beautiful parks. "If I don't see it, it's okay..." Sad.
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Thank you, Mikel.

I do not "camp" very often. Yet sometimes I do!!

I travel with my house. I go places. I bring my house with me. Yet I am in campgrounds where people ARE camping!!! Tents, etc. Others are like me. Sometimes I join them. Sometimes I don't join them. NEVER do I bother them.
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When kitchens, speakers, showers and TV mounts are being put on the outside of RV's then people will be outside using them.
I only use my outside speakers when I am at home working outside and keep what little noise I make inside when camping.
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Nice thing about an RV - you can always go someplace else.
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Times change. And what you must "endure" today will be the "Good old days" for the next generation.

On the other side of the coin, I have been at campgrounds where the stuffy old people want to sneer at anyone having fun. I had an old guy march into my site once tell me that we had to stop playing corn-hole as the thumping was giving his wife a headache. This was at like 3pm in the afternoon. They sat in their lawn chairs reading the whole weekend practically screaming at every kid that rode a bike past their site. His wife also made a big show of being overcome with the fumes when I started my diesel truck to run into town. I guess I even blinked my eyes the wrong way for them too.

Point is, the social norm nowadays is drones and music and generators and fun. Times change. you cant expect everyone to want to camp in the manner you prefer.

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