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Old 07-16-2018, 11:08 PM   #1
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Trip Out West thus far

We are taking a Griswald family vacation. We left North Carolina on July 8 and headed west on I-40 to Arizona and the Grand Canyon. This was my first time out west as in the southwest . What beautiful country I must say.

I am quirky and perhaps somewhat off balanced. Have any of you who travel 40 ever notice that is a highway of vice? In my home state we will give you tobacco. My neighbors in Tennessee will give you moonshine. The folks in Arkansas will provide you with ample adult entertainment and porn. One billboard said nation's largest adult store. So, how do they know? I figured eBay or Amazon would top them. Lol.

In Oklahoma they have you covered with casino action. Did you know Oklahoma is the 4th largest provider of casino fun? They have 4.13 casinos per 1,000 out there. North Texas is windmills, Cadillac Ranch with a touch of adult stores. New Mexico is again a casino state though their casinos are a bit smaller than Oklahoma.

In Arizona it's a bit of everything. Arizona, Texas and Oklahoma all drop the ball on rest areas with so many being closed. I don't get it.

So far we have been to Petrified Forest NP, Grand Canyon,NP and are currently in Zion. They are all wonderful places every American needs to see. With that being said, our Western parks are heavily visited by International travelers. There were places when we were at Grand Canyon where I swear my family were the only American visitors.

I have touched on this before. I am a dad to a soon to be 20 year old multihandicap blind son. We are outdoor people. My son loves the boat and the ocean. He loves being outside and camping too. I live in the shadow of Great Smoky Mountains National Park in North Carolina.

I have been to every park in the east and most along the Rockies. I grew up just north of Disney World in Florida. I am use to a diverse group of travelers but I have to say both at Grand Canyon and Zion the European visitors are the worst. I have never encountered so many rude people. They were rude to us in the bathroom areas. Some , who were using the family bathrooms without a single family member around, just would cut us off. I was in Zion today and forgot to lock the family bathroom and 3-4 single European visitors walked into the room. I don't rant much but I have to say if you are not disabled and don't have little kids,please don't occupy those family bathrooms. Time and again foriegn visitors yae those a private bathroom while we waited outside .
The foriegn visitors cut in line, have no trail manners when hiking and today in Zion, a guy cutting in line and flat out lied that he had people on the tram. Some American visitors called him out. Tonight in Zion I was charging my batteries and running my Yamaha Genny in the designated generator hour time here and he came over to tell me to turn it off. Um, excuse me? I am in my country , in a national park that as a business owner , that my taxes support and you have the gall. We don't run the genny in the morning but come 8 AM, I might just fire it up. Lol.

The park service needs to do a better job in upgrading their bathrooms in the campgrounds to meet ADA for their entry doors and toilets. It's sad and difficult to toilet a year old in the campground bathrooms both in GC and Zion.

I am big time hiker and mountain biker. We gave hiked the South Rim Trail at Grand Canyon with our son in his ATV style wheel chair or stroller.we hiked Bright Angel Trail and today at Zion hiked the Narrows. I want to do a Rim to Rim backpack trip one year and I would love to do 4-7 day white water trip in the Grand Canyon.

We are here at Zion through Thursday then off to Yellowstone for a week.
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All of that and you didn't even stop to stand on that famous corner in Winslow, Arizona?

It was such a fine sight to see, as I was just there a little over two weeks ago on my way back from a seven week trip from Yuma, AZ to South Dakota and back.
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Old 07-17-2018, 12:59 AM   #3
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As a member of those dreaded Europeans (although I just hit 20 years in the US) I want to apologize for what you experienced. Right now is the prime vacationing season in Europe so you'll see a lot of them in popular spots. I remember I went to Death Valley in July in 99 or 2000 and I read that the only people going to DV in the summer are European tourists, because it's so friggin hot. Sure enough there were plenty of Germans hanging out at the Corkscrew Saloon in Furnace Creek.

As for the bathroom situation, I don't know where these guys were from. It is common to make the most efficient use of, ahem, "resources" including women using the stalls in men's restrooms if there are lines which is a bit of a cultural difference. However at disabled/family bathrooms the designated users are given priority, at least where I'm from. Apologies again.
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Hope the rest of your trip goes well.

We've met lots of European travelers who have been courteous, but the language barrier and lack of signs in different languages at the national parks can make it difficult for everyone. In our experience, the bathroom situation in most parks is less than ideal.

You're not seeing much of Texas when you're traveling I40 and in defense of my state, they are upgrading rest areas all over the state. Some of the newer ones even have internet access. Not ideal, but it's still better than some states that have closed all rest areas because of the cost.

I enjoyed your summations of the state highway of vice.

Sounds like you are packing a lot of fun into this trip and will have experiences to last a lifetime. It's definitely a lot different than living near the Great Smoky Mountains. Enjoy your time in Yellowstone. Hope you get to see lots of buffalo. If I remember correctly, there is a small town on the north where the Elk have dinner on the grass on the town square.
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Keep Camping,wait until you are in the MENs bathhouse that is Clearly Marked by International Signage as a MENs,and you are standing at the Urinal Naked,just before you enter the Shower when a "WOMEN" steps out of the Shower! I have NO idea what "Nationality" she was but I didn't try to strike up a Conversation either! Youroo!!
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Keep Camping,wait until you are in the MENs bathhouse that is Clearly Marked by International Signage as a MENs,and you are standing at the Urinal Naked,just before you enter the Shower when a "WOMEN" steps out of the Shower! I have NO idea what "Nationality" she was but I didn't try to strike up a Conversation either! Youroo!!


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I was in the Keys when I experienced that!

We keep hearing of entrance fee increases to our National Parks and I think itís a wonderful idea to charge foreign travelers more. I have also noticed that they have zero respect!
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Our national parks are cash strapped due to budget cuts. If you can join the national park conservancy. They do a lot of lobbying for funding for the parks.
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I stood on the corner in Winslow, Arizona 37 years ago. Very cool.

I know exactly how you feel about foreign tourists. I find Asians are much worse than Europeans. I can't tell you how many times I've been photo bombed by them and their selfie sticks. Not to mention their line jumping.
I was told by someone that they feel if you're vacationing here that it's because you can't afford to go there so they don't respect you as much as those visiting their country.

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I stood on the corner in Winslow, Arizona 37 years ago. Very cool.

I know exactly how you feel about foreign tourists. I find Asians are much worse than Europeans. I can't tell you how many times I've been photo bombed by them and their selfie sticks. Not to mention their line jumping.
I was told by someone that they feel if you're vacationing here that it's because you can't afford to go there so they don't respect you as much as those visiting their country.

Wow. No wonder most other countries don't like Americans. I find foreigners are no more rude than anyone else. It's all in how you perceive it.
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Fun read. Thanks. Give yourself plenty of time in Yellowstone. It is truly a treasure.
If you get a chance take your family to the nightly Rodeo in either West Yellowstone or Cody.
Cody is a special place.
Follow US14 east and cross the Bighorn Mtns. Believe it or not their is a herd of moose in the cottonwoods up top.
Then go east to Devils Tower and the Black Hills and do not miss Wall Drug in Wall SD.
Enjoy
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