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Old 01-09-2014, 04:38 AM   #1
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Newbie cant wait to camp but a bit overwhelmed :)

I just bought a Popup Tent trailer and realized after working through the manual that there's so much new information and terminology. I still dont have it all down as to what runs on electric plug in vs 12V except for the refrig, I think I have that one down.
Ex. Hot water heater when using shore line vs dry camping. Does it use electricity only with shore line or electricity and propane with shoreline and propane and Battery dry camping?

Water pump I heard that you dont need the water pump when hooked up to city water and only need it when using the water tank such as when dry camping so if that's true then it would use 12V Battery power? But not propane?

Heater using electricity with shoreline hook up and propane? and if dry camping then 12V Battery and propane?

The stove has a "lite" on the knob so I'm assuming that would be more electric or 12V Battery start, but then the stove would be propane only except for the lighting process?

See what I mean?? I did the walk through but the guy was fast and seemed in a hurry as I tried to ask questions. I've asked some, but I need to find other resources to ask questions.

Thanks for any help feed/back etc
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Old 01-09-2014, 05:04 AM   #2
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Lets start with what Brand/Model of pop up.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:03 AM   #3
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I just bought a Popup Tent trailer and realized after working through the manual that there's so much new information and terminology. I still dont have it all down as to what runs on electric plug in vs 12V except for the refrig, I think I have that one down. Lights will work on 12V but power outlets won't, they are 120V
Ex. Hot water heater when using shore line vs dry camping. Does it use electricity only with shore line or electricity and propane with shoreline and propane and Battery dry camping? If it's electric/LP then you should have a switch someplace to choose how you want to heat the water. If you're at a campground use electric and save your LP.

Water pump I heard that you dont need the water pump when hooked up to city water and only need it when using the water tank such as when dry camping so if that's true then it would use 12V Battery power? But not propane? Water pump will work on 12V and 120V, it doesn't need propane.

Heater using electricity with shoreline hook up and propane? and if dry camping then 12V Battery and propane? Correct

The stove has a "lite" on the knob so I'm assuming that would be more electric or 12V Battery start, but then the stove would be propane only except for the lighting process? That knob is probably the spark to ignite the burners. Turn burner knob to the 'Lite' position and turn that knob to provide spark to ignite LP.

See what I mean?? I did the walk through but the guy was fast and seemed in a hurry as I tried to ask questions. I've asked some, but I need to find other resources to ask questions.

Thanks for any help feed/back etc
Congrats on your popup. There is a learning curve but don't worry, you'll get it. We started with a tent and moved to a popup, then a hybrid, then a travel trailer, and now have a 5th wheel. Each time there was something else new to learn. This forum is all about helping people out so ask away with your questions. You should've gotten manuals for your stove, water heater, etc. If you didn't then try doing a search online for them. I know most people don't read the instructions but they can answer some basic questions when you're starting out.
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Congrats on the new popup. We got 12+ seasons of enjoyment out ours. Hard to beat the value.

Did you buy from a dealer? Sounds like they rushed you off the lot. I would make a list a questions - like you did above, and talk to the owner or manager and just let them know you still have questions. I would bet they will setup a time where you could bring it back and go through things again, or if its a long distance, they might be able to do it by phone. The guy doing the walk through might have been on a rush, but most managers wouldn't think that was OK to let you leave with unanswered questions.

And you can use this forum and one called Popup Explorer to get tons of good information as well.
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Popup Explorer is an excellent forum. Watch out for one guy - he's a modding fanatic and has done some really neat stuff.

You have described my first year in a pop-up to a T! I didn't know what I didn't know and what I did know was only enough to make me dangerous!

What kind of camping do you plan on doing? We mostly RV'd and always had hookups. It let me forget about/not have to learn about the 12v system because we were always plugged in.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:56 AM   #6
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I learned more about my first popup when we went camping with a couple that had a TT, but had a popup prior. They were great at giving us tips in setting up, how to carry our assorted stuff and all of the different systems.

What part of the country are you located in?

It might be possible that another FROG member is close to you and could guide you through lots of the systems.

I do agree that the person doing your PDI rushed you out, so I would go back to the dealership for another PDI.
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It might be possible that another FROG member is close to you and could guide you through lots of the systems.
That's a great idea! I bought my pop-up used from a friend who just so happened to be camped at the same place as us the first trip out. I ran up the hill a few times for assistance.
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:14 AM   #8
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Newbie: THANK YOU!! you guys Rock!

Thank you so much for your help everyone.. I dont feel so alone out here with this great camper after seeing so many responses. The popup I have is a Rockwood/Freedom 2318G if that helps. Yes the guy did rush me at the dealership and I probably need to go talk to others at the dealership, but that's another story for another time. I've been reading the manuals, but there are still confusing parts and Im more hands on. I live in Southern California so Im excited with our weather I'll be able to do a lot of camping. I used to backpack but I think Im getting to a point of not really wanting to lay on the ground much any more. This seemed a lot nicer.

Question: Do you guys know about how much propane is used when using the RV heater all night? I have only one tank right now and plan to get another one. I was also thinking that to save on the propane that I'd get a little plug in heater. Im going to Santa Barbara on the coast in Feb and it gets pretty cold at night, not usually freezing but can go to 30-40 F. But I was curious about how much propane is used. Thanks
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Welcome and congratulations.

As for the stove, on mine, the "LITE" on the dial means to put it there when lighting the stove. Mine does not come with any automatic lighter. I use your regular grill lighter for it. I try not to use the stove often. I rather cook outside.

The biggest propane user is the furnace, followed by the hot water heater. I, as well as many others, usually try and use a small electric heater at the campground. In a popup, that is less efficient due to all the canvas. If you do plan on some cooler weather camper, a 2nd tank and automatic changeover could be a good investment, if you can fit it on your popup.

Good luck, and feel free to ask questions.
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Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your new PUP camper. The camper manual is very generic and not alot of help as it applies to all the Rockwood PUPs. I was also overwhelmed just going through the package of all the different appliance manuals provided.

Our PDI was short as well and we were also newbees - and I had no questions as it was a situation of not knowing what you didn't know.....
Our first year was a very steep learning curve but hang in there, you will get it all figured out. And there are lots of people here who are happy to answer your questions. Also people at campgrounds are willing to help if you get in a jam while out. My first time backing into a site, I told the family in the site next to mine - to not laugh, it was my first time. They jumped right up and helped us back it in. So nice.

and yes, a second propane tank would be a good idea if you are running the heater alot. I also run an electric heater to reduce the propane use. I find I can use it alone if it does not get too cold - do you have heated mattresses? They really keep us warm even with the camper feeling chilly.
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