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Old 01-21-2008, 02:34 AM   #1
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2008 Concertone -no digital TV

I just bought a 2008 Rockwood 8314SS this past September. After checking it out on our first camping trip, I noticed that the TV portion of the Concertone receiver is still an NTSC Analog TV tuner. The FCC's web site says this: "As of March 1, 2007, all television receivers shipped in interstate commerce or imported into the United States must contain a digital tuner. In addition, effective May 25, 2007, the Commission required sellers of television receiving equipment that does not include a digital tuner to disclose at the point-of-sale that such devices include only an analog tuner, and therefore will require a digital-to-analog converter box to receive over-the-air broadcast television after the transition date. Retailers must inform consumers by prominently displaying the following text if they are selling TV equipment with only an analog tuner: ...".

So is there some way to turn on the ATSC digital tuner, or is Forest River in violation of Federal law by selling this vehicle with an Analog only (NTSC) turner?
Has anyone contacted them about replacing the Concertone unit with one that is compliant with the current federal regulations? I'd like to have a TV set that will still work 1 year from now. We like to camp in state and national parks, so we will most likely only have over-the-air TV reception. Thanks.
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:43 AM   #2
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Sorry about the problem. Our 2008 Flagstaff (built in November 07) had no tuner in the Concertone system, but instead a digital tuner in the LCD TV. I think I would contact Forest River and point out that what they sold you was against the rules (that you pointed out). You may also want to go to https://www.dtv2009.gov/ApplyCoupon.aspx and apply for you free coupons for an analog to digital converter.

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Old 01-21-2008, 10:36 AM   #3
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You are exactly right, they should not give the concertone with analog tuner, in my opinion this was one of the only bad thing about these trailers and maybe they ar trying to get rid of them. Heck even WallyWorld and Kma#t had to pull all of thier analog tv. What I would do is Email the Rockwood /division atten Jeff Richardson. and ddress the issue, he is real good about getting back to you I have gone through 3 of these units , and they finally offerd me a 231.00 refund, of course I had to send the unit back his email address is jrichardson@forestriverinc.com, hope this helps
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:04 PM   #4
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Our 2008 Wildcat came without the tuner built in, and no TV either. It just uses the receiver in the TV we put in.
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Old 01-25-2008, 12:54 AM   #5
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll e-mail forestriver and let you know what their answer is.
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll e-mail forestriver and let you know what their answer is.
Yes, please keep us posted. I'm interested in what their answer might be too.
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:13 PM   #7
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Add me to the list of those waiting to hear FR's reply.
My 08 Rockwood came w/ zx500 Concertone. Dont think the 'newer' zx600 units have digital tuners either
Waiting to talk to dealer when I get back home in late March. Hopefully by then FR will have a decision

Just talked to dealer. He's calling FR because the last he was told by FR is that ALL 08 models are "digital compatible"
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Add me to the list of those waiting to hear FR's reply.
My 08 Rockwood came w/ zx500 Concertone. Dont think the 'newer' zx600 units have digital tuners either
Waiting to talk to dealer when I get back home in late March. Hopefully by then FR will have a decision

Just talked to dealer. He's calling FR because the last he was told by FR is that ALL 08 models are "digital compatible"

Sure the ZX600 are..............because they don't have a built in tuner.



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Old 02-05-2008, 01:48 PM   #9
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Sent an e-mail last week to Jeff Richardson at Forest River claims he hasn't heard about the change over said to contact Gregg Yoder in their electronics division 574-389-1801.
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I just bought a 2008 Rockwood 8314SS this past September. After checking it out on our first camping trip, I noticed that the TV portion of the Concertone receiver is still an NTSC Analog TV tuner. The FCC's web site says this: "As of March 1, 2007, all television receivers shipped in interstate commerce or imported into the United States must contain a digital tuner. In addition, effective May 25, 2007, the Commission required sellers of television receiving equipment that does not include a digital tuner to disclose at the point-of-sale that such devices include only an analog tuner, and therefore will require a digital-to-analog converter box to receive over-the-air broadcast television after the transition date. Retailers must inform consumers by prominently displaying the following text if they are selling TV equipment with only an analog tuner: ...".

So is there some way to turn on the ATSC digital tuner, or is Forest River in violation of Federal law by selling this vehicle with an Analog only (NTSC) turner?
Has anyone contacted them about replacing the Concertone unit with one that is compliant with the current federal regulations? I'd like to have a TV set that will still work 1 year from now. We like to camp in state and national parks, so we will most likely only have over-the-air TV reception. Thanks.
I purchased my 2008 unit in July 07. I thought I would check my system out.

The TV when turned on showed NTSC. If you press the menu button on the TV remote control and keep pressing until you get to GENERAL MENU you will see INPUT SOURCE. Select INPUT SOURCE and press your right arrow until you see DTV (I believe this is for DIGITAL) If you select AV (ANALOG VIDEO) NTSC shows back up on the screen. So it seems (I could be wrong) that the Concertone TV has both a Digital and Analog tuner. Is this correct?
I purchased a DVD recorder last year and I know it had both Digital and Analog tuners.

Now as for the ZX500 System itself, I looked in the manual under the specifications and it states that its TV tuner is NTSC which is ANALOG. Is this in violation by selling the ZX500 with only a Analog NTSC tuner?
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