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Old 07-30-2007, 03:25 PM   #1
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5th wheel stabilizer install

I got this done a several weeks ago before I busted my ankle but it took until now to write it up. So here goes. Lots of pics

First 3 pics are before stabilizers.
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Grab the necessary tools. Missing from the pic is a 5/16” drill bit and a 1/8” drill bit. And of course the extra beverages in the fridge.
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:30 PM   #2
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Stabilizers. 4 for the front and 2 for the back.
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Self tapping screws and replacement bolts for the rear scissor jacks.
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Close-up of rear stabilizer mounting bracket.
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Close-up of frame mounting bracket.
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:34 PM   #3
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First I hooked my truck up to the trailer so I could raise and lower my jacks. This is not in the instructions but I felt that this would help me be more accurate in the installation.In fact the instructions start out “With your jacks down, start by positioning a tube assembly from the jack back to the frame of the RV like it is in the up position.” Having the landing gear (jacks) down is not necessary. I have the luxury of being able to park my rig at my house and have a concrete driveway. I was able to raise the landing gear up and set the max “height” that I would travel with. This is the lowest that I feel comfortable having my gear down while traveling. As a result of having my gear in the up position, I am able to mount to the landing gear 1st instead of the frame as per the instructions, “Attach the large end [outside tube] to the frame with 1 drill screw”. To me attaching to the gear first made sense while they were up as I could be certain that the stabilizers would be at their maximum retracted position (minus 1 inch) while the gear were in the up position.

They state in their instructions “There are many variables with different jacks. Our solution is to be open to phone discussion either before or during installation so we can provide specifics for your particular situation.” And definitely take them up on the phone support. If they do not answer right away, leave a message. Dutch and Diana are full-time RV’rs and sometimes do not have very good cell service and have to get to “higher ground”.

Here I’m judging the spacing needed for where the bracket would mount. I lost about 2 pin holes, nothing major.

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I placed some black duct tape around the jack to indicate the lowest I was comfortable keeping the landing gear down while traveling. This is a judgment call based on the rear of the truck, distance between the truck and trailer and the height of the landing gear.
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This is the inside of the right landing gear in the process of being finished. 1st step is to close the stabilizer and then back out about an inch so it will not bottom out while retracting the landing gear. Next I eyeballed a spot to mount the bracket on the landing gear towards the outside edge of the leg as my gear is to the inside of the trailer’s frame. Some 5th wheel landing gear is located on the outside of the frame. In that case the mounting point of the bracket would be located to the inside edge of the landing gear on both sides. This is important to help prevent binding of the stabilizers. I had initially centered the bracket on the leg and experienced some binding. I called Dutch and explained the binding and he asked about placement of the bracket, when I told him I had it centered on the landing gear he told me to place it to the outer edge as my gear is located inside the frame. I then pre-drilled a 1/8” hole for the bottom hole on the bracket and then shot in the 1st self-tapping screw. Pre-drilling makes it a lot easier for the self-tapping screw to go in as it will not track to an undesired location. Then I attached the other end of the stabilizer (the outside hole) to the frame of the trailer again pre-drilling for the screw. At this point I had 1 screw in the landing gear and 1 screw in the frame. Next I needed to unfasten the bolt holding the stabilizer to the bracket at the frame to remove the pipe so I could shoot the other screws in each bracket. Neither bracket, landing gear or frame is nice and even lined up with anything as the frame and gear are not lined up with each other. This is normal. After I had reassembled the bracket at the frame I tried to lower and raise the landing gear to check for binding. It was binding a bit so I called Dutch and Diana the owners of Plugitright and Dutch informed me that I should remove the bolts from the brackets one at a time and use a 5/16” drill bit and run it through the bolt holes in each bracket while they were assembled (I.E. the brackets were mounted and the pipes were fitted through the brackets. This would allow for a scosh more play to reduce the binding. That’s what I’m doing here. It worked. Next was to reassemble the frame bracket and bolt combinations. Done with the first stabilizer. 3 more to go on the front.
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Here’s the right front landing gear with both stabilizers attached.
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On the right front side frame stabilizer mount, I had the pleasure of mounting right next to the gas line. This made for drilling out the bracket quite interesting but I muddled through it. Notice the circular scrape in the siding where I had un-screwed one of the self-tapping screws to disassemble and reassemble the bracket pipe combination?
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:35 PM   #4
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Here is a front on pic of the stabilizers installed. My truck is now unhooked.
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Here is a side pic of the front stabilizers. Notice the slop in the landing gear. My old 5th wheel didn’t have this slop. I believe this is one of the reasons that this trailer was never as stable as my old one. I’m hoping these stabilizers will solve that.
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The rear landing gear was pretty straight forward after installing the front gear. Remove one of the original bolts in the scissor jacks and replace with one of the supplied 3 ½” bolts and attach the landing gear. Retract the scissor jacks to the full up position and then mount the frame brackets remembering to pre-position the stabilizer with about 1 inch of extra play so it won’t bottom out. Ream brackets with drill after mounted and now we’re done.
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This is a bad picture I know but after a few beers and the position of the sun I really didn’t feel like making it look better. Anyway this is taken from underneath the trailer looking back with the scissor jack down and the stabilizer locked. The frame cross member that I mounted to wasn’t very wide, in fact it was a PITA to get the frame bracket to line up so both screws would hit metal.

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Old 07-30-2007, 03:40 PM   #5
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I have yet to camp in the trailer after the installation to give a good review on how they work with use. A broke ankle puts a damper on things. But I can say that after the install and having the stabilizers locked, pushing on the side of the trailer produced very little sway. Before stabilizers I was able to rock the trailer quite a bit just by pushing on it. So far I’m pleased with them and the service I received from Dutch and Di from Plugitright. I guess I’ll find out at the end of August on whether or not these were worth the money.


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Old 07-30-2007, 04:18 PM   #6
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I've noticed that you have joined our little forum. Please feel free to post and comment on my install.

Thank you for your phone support.

Can't wait to put them to the test.

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So, did 'hw' install them for you, what with being crippled and all?

Actually they look really great!
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