adding a rear ladder

[Mark J]

We have a FR Shamrock 19 and are thinking about adding a rear ladder so we can sit up to watching races etc. We were told sitting up top is fine, just don't put chairs up there. Any thoughts or suggestions as to should we even consider this?

[RiverBird]

Most TTs without a ladder are not blocked off at the factory for a ladder install. You are looking for trouble and leaks.

We too wanted a rear ladder. Our dealer (very trusted) advised against it.


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[youroo]

Originally Posted by RiverBird

Most TTs without a ladder are not blocked off at the factory for a ladder install. You are looking for trouble and leaks.

We too wanted a rear ladder. Our dealer (very trusted) advised against it.


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This is (Good/Solid) advice! Youroo!!

[JohnandPandra]

The dealer does not know. They only order options and did not build the trailer. Only the factory knows if it has backing material and you need to contact them with your model # and VIN#. They will direct you who to talk to and probably another installation person where to position it. Mine did not have a ladder and after talking with the factory, ordered (ladder) through the dealer and it was available in 2 pieces instead of 1 whole piece which saved on shipping. Pre-drill pilot holes as not to splinter the surface and put silicone on your installation screws to seal penetration holes. If you are handy with tools, you will not have a problem.

[satdog01]

As advised above, check with FR division. I wanted to add a ladder to my 2012 Flagstaff and the dealer told me one could not be added after it was built. When I toured the Flagstaff plant, I noticed that blocking was being installed on both sides of the TT. Ask tech how they knew which units got ladders and was told, blocking is cheap! They install it on all Flagstaff units. Asked and got one installed at FROG rally the next day! Again check the division and by year, as thing do change!

[dont tread on me]

Surveyor broke out in a rash on me too when I wanted to add a ladder they refused to sell me one and refused any info to help. I'm waiting for the warranty to be up.

But what I have done since is I have measured other trailers at the dealer simular to mine. They do not offer a model on mine because of the refer exhaust is on the right side and trailer regulators say you cannot put a ladder there. I think they are afraid that someone may hang a towel to dry on the ladder and it might catch fire. I'm putting mine up the middle where there is a small skylight that I will just have to step over.

I just bought an electronic stud finder from Costco for around 30 bucks. "precision sensors" stud finder. It did a great job of showing me where the supports were for a ladder to be mounted. My findings matched with the measurements I took from the simular models. On a cold morning I can see the supports on the side of my trailer but for some reason that trick does not work on the back. Happy tyrails....Walt

[chriscowles]

Can a ladder be added to a hybrid? Those I've seen on other trailers were all mounted on the rear. That wouldn't work very well with the bunk door. Are there alternative locations?

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[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

Can a ladder be added to a hybrid? Those I've seen on other trailers were all mounted on the rear. That wouldn't work very well with the bunk door. Are there alternative locations?

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In the bumper or a vinyl fence post mod?

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[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by Ford Idaho

In the bumper or a vinyl fence post mod?

Actually, I already have the 5' version of that in the bumper. It doesn't get me on the roof. The 7' version wouldn't, either.

The design is very good but, as rickety as the 5' version is, I don't think I'd be comfortable climbing any higher on the 7' version, anyway.

Thanks, anyway.



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[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

Actually, I already have the 5' version of that in the bumper. It doesn't get me on the roof. The 7' version wouldn't, either.

The design is very good but, as rickety as the 5' version is, I don't think I'd be comfortable climbing any higher on the 7' version, anyway.

Thanks, anyway.



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I understand.

Have you looked at these?

https://www.google.com/#q=telescoping+ladder

[youroo]

Originally Posted by Ford Idaho

I understand.

Have you looked at these?

https://www.google.com/#q=telescoping+ladder

This is my choice,we have a (Factory Rear Ladder) but it sucks to use it on the (Front & Sides)! Youroo!!

[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by youroo

This is my choice,we have a (Factory Rear Ladder) but it sucks to use it on the (Front & Sides)! Youroo!!

There is a ladder on the back of the lite, my 215 pounds was not happy on it so I got this.

Shop Werner 17-ft Aluminum 300-lb Telescoping Type IA Multi-Position Ladder at Lowes.com=

[chriscowles]

The Lowes job is bigger than I want to carry. The 5' serves my purpose of reaching the sides. I want the roof ladder solely for rooftop access, which is why I asked about the add-on. Is there such a thing as a side-mounted roof ladder? If so, where is it attached?

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[Ford Idaho]

There might be but I would not like it.
It would make you wider on one side by 4-6 inches and that would hinder your sight line on that side, in traffic that is a liability I do not wish for anyone.

Good luck in your search.

[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by youroo

This is my choice,we have a (Factory Rear Ladder) but it sucks to use it on the (Front & Sides)! Youroo!!

Yea, I bet a factory rear ladder would be a pita to move to front and sides...

[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by Ford Idaho

There might be but I would not like it. It would make you wider on one side by 4-6 inches and that would hinder your sight line on that side, in traffic that is a liability I do not wish for anyone.

Yeah, probably true. I guess hybrids and ladders simply aren't compatible.

[Brother Les]

Originally Posted by Mark J

We have a FR Shamrock 19 and are thinking about adding a rear ladder so we can sit up to watching races etc. We were told sitting up top is fine, just don't put chairs up there. Any thoughts or suggestions as to should we even consider this?

Ladder..... NO.... (I have a ladder built on my unit from the factory and it is junk and bent)

Party on Roof..... No... . (You may think that you are not causing harm, but over time you will)

[jtstromsburg]

Originally Posted by Ford Idaho

There might be but I would not like it.
It would make you wider on one side by 4-6 inches and that would hinder your sight line on that side, in traffic that is a liability I do not wish for anyone.

Good luck in your search.

I've seen ladders on sides of toy haulers. I think they are low profile, and wouldn't stick out much further than the awning arms?

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

Yeah, probably true. I guess hybrids and ladders simply aren't compatible.

THIS!^^^^

can't mount to the back nor can you attach the top to anything, since it's bended plastic on the ends of the roof.

the only way is for a side ladder and even then you'd have to find studs and i'm sure you won't find two near each other on the sides.

in 10 years of being a member of 5 different hybrid forums, i've NEVER seen anyone come up with a successful way to add a ladder to a hybrid TT. it ain't built like conventional TTs.

i also wouldn't want a lot of people on the roof unless they were all on the edge of it.