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07-04-2016, 11:35 AM
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Adding a step to stairs??
Our camper has 2 exterior doors, the main door into the kitchen and also a door into the bathroom. The main door has a 3 step stair way, from the bottom step to the ground is 11". The bathroom door has a 2 step stair and is 18" from the ground to the step. The rear step is way too much and to me its a safety hazard.
I would like to either add some sort of additional, removable, step the to rear stairs. Or replace the rear stairs with a 3 step unit. Even though a step stool would be a much cheaper way to solve this problem I do not want to use a step stool as we camp at alot of county camp grounds and the sites are never level.
The front stairs have a a tread width of 25 3/4" and the frame width is 27 3/4". The rear stairs have a tread width of 24 1/4 and a frame width of 25 1/4". Both stairs have a riser/step height of 7".
I have looked for replacement 3 step stairs but haven't yet found one with the specs that I need. So does anyone know of an aftermarket "add a step" that will hook or pin on to the stairs? Or a replacement set of stairs that are close to the specs that I need?
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TT-2013 Passport 3220BH
TV-2004 F150 FX4, not exactly stock...
nights camped:
with 2001 Kodiak K215: 2010-10, 2011-12
with 2012 Grey Wolf 26BH: 2012-19, 2013-24, 2014-11, 2015-6
with 2013 Passport: 2015-13, 2016-15 booked
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07-04-2016, 11:59 AM
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Location: Windsor, Ontario
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I hope this links works. At camping world they have adjustable leg platform steps. Actually on internet sale right know.
Adjustable Leg Platform Step - Stromberg Carlson PA-250 - Steps - Camping World
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07-04-2016, 12:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PHS79
Our camper has 2 exterior doors, the main door into the kitchen and also a door into the bathroom. The main door has a 3 step stair way, from the bottom step to the ground is 11". The bathroom door has a 2 step stair and is 18" from the ground to the step. The rear step is way too much and to me its a safety hazard.
I would like to either add some sort of additional, removable, step the to rear stairs. Or replace the rear stairs with a 3 step unit. Even though a step stool would be a much cheaper way to solve this problem I do not want to use a step stool as we camp at alot of county camp grounds and the sites are never level.
The front stairs have a a tread width of 25 3/4" and the frame width is 27 3/4". The rear stairs have a tread width of 24 1/4 and a frame width of 25 1/4". Both stairs have a riser/step height of 7".
I have looked for replacement 3 step stairs but haven't yet found one with the specs that I need. So does anyone know of an aftermarket "add a step" that will hook or pin on to the stairs? Or a replacement set of stairs that are close to the specs that I need?
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Lippert has a 3 step unit that is 24" wide with a 7" riser, I think it is 124.00 cost without shipping also check etailer. Google RV ENTRY STEPS, all kinds and dimensions pop up. good luck.
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07-04-2016, 11:21 PM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
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Bail on your steps entirely and break down to buy Torklift Glowstep Revolution steps. They're the best steps I've used.
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07-04-2016, 11:55 PM
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Location: Space Coast of Florida
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Originally Posted by Gripper
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X2, if Amazon prime free shipping a little less...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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07-05-2016, 01:31 PM
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We went with RV port-a-steps. our dogs had trouble negotiating the trailer steps, we replaced them with RV port-a-steps which are bigger steps, have a deck (2'x2') at the top, and have smaller distance between each step. They just set on top of the older steps (on the top one) and at the bottom have adjustable "legs" to set on the ground. The RV port-a-steps have a handrail and are surprisingly stable. They're not cheap but we consider them well worth the money - much cheaper than a broken leg (I have show dogs and a broken leg will set me back a couple thousand- and no insurance to cover part of it). I don't have any stake in the company - just a very satisfied customer. Cincia
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07-05-2016, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
Bail on your steps entirely and break down to buy Torklift Glowstep Revolution steps. They're the best steps I've used.
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After having our trailer lifted 3" the bottom step is too far from the ground. I've looked at the Torklift Glowstep Revolution steps and if we do replace them, those are the front runners. But the trailer mod budget is blown for the year so we'll stick with the little folding step stool for now.
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07-05-2016, 02:11 PM
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Mod free 5er
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Concord, NC
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I made an adjustable step extension for a friend of mine.
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07-05-2016, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
I made an adjustable step extension for a friend of mine.
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That is exactly the kinda thing I was thinking of! Would you happen to have any pictures of the why it hooks to the steps?
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TT-2013 Passport 3220BH
TV-2004 F150 FX4, not exactly stock...
nights camped:
with 2001 Kodiak K215: 2010-10, 2011-12
with 2012 Grey Wolf 26BH: 2012-19, 2013-24, 2014-11, 2015-6
with 2013 Passport: 2015-13, 2016-15 booked
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07-05-2016, 04:27 PM
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Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PHS79
That is exactly the kinda thing I was thinking of! Would you happen to have any pictures of the why it hooks to the steps?
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The why is so it can be stored if it isn't needed.
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07-05-2016, 04:43 PM
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07-05-2016, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
The why is so it can be stored if it isn't needed.
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Opps sorry OC, either my fingers got going too fast or it was that darn auto correct. I meant to say, do you have any pictures of the way that the extra step hooks to the camper steps? Just a side picture of the step removed would be great!
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TT-2013 Passport 3220BH
TV-2004 F150 FX4, not exactly stock...
nights camped:
with 2001 Kodiak K215: 2010-10, 2011-12
with 2012 Grey Wolf 26BH: 2012-19, 2013-24, 2014-11, 2015-6
with 2013 Passport: 2015-13, 2016-15 booked
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07-05-2016, 08:35 PM
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Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PHS79
Opps sorry OC, either my fingers got going too fast or it was that darn auto correct. I meant to say, do you have any pictures of the way that the extra step hooks to the camper steps? Just a side picture of the step removed would be great!
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Don't have a side view, but at the end(back) of the tube that goes over the step, I made a 3/16" thick L to fit under the back of the step. In other words, it is a 1" wide hook.
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07-06-2016, 07:11 AM
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Location: SouthWest Michigan
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Are you able to build a set of steps,,, and do you have room to take them with you ???
A set of 3 steps built out of wood,,, and carpeted,,, are better than any of these flimsy metal ones !!!
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07-06-2016, 08:00 AM
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I was originally thinking that op's steps may have been incorrectly installed at the factory...then I found a pic of the 2013 with both stairs unfolded and I'm finding it hard to believe that Keystone thought it was acceptable to include just a 2 step stair for this trailer at the bathroom exterior door...seriously unacceptable. Then again, they've dropped the exterior bathroom door in subsequent models of this trailer. Black eye for Keystone on this one...
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07-06-2016, 08:07 AM
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Location: Dunn, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
The why is so it can be stored if it isn't needed.
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I think he means "HOW"
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07-06-2016, 09:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
Are you able to build a set of steps,,, and do you have room to take them with you ???
A set of 3 steps built out of wood,,, and carpeted,,, are better than any of these flimsy metal ones !!!
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I could build a set, very easy as I was a carpenter for a custom home builder for 15 years. The problem would be the space to take them with....
I am going to send a link to this page to a friend who was a welder and still does some little odd jobs here and there. I like the setup that OC made, I am thinking about using his pics as a starting point and seeing where it may go from there.
Thanks everyone!
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TT-2013 Passport 3220BH
TV-2004 F150 FX4, not exactly stock...
nights camped:
with 2001 Kodiak K215: 2010-10, 2011-12
with 2012 Grey Wolf 26BH: 2012-19, 2013-24, 2014-11, 2015-6
with 2013 Passport: 2015-13, 2016-15 booked
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07-07-2016, 05:55 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: SouthWest Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PHS79
I could build a set, very easy as I was a carpenter for a custom home builder for 15 years. The problem would be the space to take them with....
I am going to send a link to this page to a friend who was a welder and still does some little odd jobs here and there. I like the setup that OC made, I am thinking about using his pics as a starting point and seeing where it may go from there.
Thanks everyone!
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I hear ya,,, space is always a concern !!!
But it is hard to beat 3 nice wooden steps !!!
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07-08-2016, 08:25 AM
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Location: Montgomery, Alabama
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I saw a similar post on another forum, this solution was offered.
www.redi-step.com
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07-08-2016, 09:25 AM
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OldCoot, That looks awesome. Do you know how sturdy it is? I bought aftermarket steps and the bottom step is not sturdy at all. I have tried to put things under it but the ground has to be completely level for that to work. I would like to cut that third step off and do this.
Thanks for your help.
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