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02-11-2017, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: South Jordan, UT
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Cabinets stapled to walls not screwed?
Hi All, Coming from owning 2 Jayco trailers to a Shockwave trailer, wondering if there are any issues with cabinets falling off the walls because they are not screwed on like Jayco does.
Has anyone added grabber screws in spots to ensure they stay put?
Thank you for any replies.
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02-11-2017, 11:04 AM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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These have stayed in place for 30,000 miles
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02-11-2017, 11:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
These have stayed in place for 30,000 miles
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Are they empty Bob?
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02-11-2017, 11:42 AM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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No....Have put new floors in pantry tho....
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02-11-2017, 11:43 AM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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Why have two cast iron pans when you have room for 5!.....lol
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02-11-2017, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Full-timers
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We are full-timers and have a 43' Sierra 5th wheel that we bought new in 2014. We put about 10k miles/year on the rig. No problems with the cabinets, but shelving, clothes racks/hangers, trim pieces, etc have been a whole 'nother story. As you had commented, most of these things are just stapled in place and cannot support the weight of normal things that they are intended to support. Heavy pots and pans go in the bottom of cabinets, with lighter higher up. I have had to remount shelves and brackets using plastic wall anchors, reinforced existing brackets and refastened trim pieces more securely than any staples could do.
Obviously the manufacturers use staples wherever they can because it is a cheap/fast way to assemble. But those staples are real flimsy. Like most folks, I spend a fair amount of time beefing up the rig inside and out to cope with the rigors of hauling a "house" on wheels, and dealing with rough roads, braking, cornering and all the inherent stress that imposes on the rig.
Such is life in dealing with minimal quality of construction/assembly found in pretty much all brands and price ranges of RVs today.
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02-12-2017, 11:30 AM
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MCTroy
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Troy.Ohio
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No problem with the cabinets in our Windjammer. I don't like paper plates or plastic ware so our cupboards are full. Several pans, baking ware and stoneware dishes service for 8. I have learned to firmly shut the doors and put a bungee around the handles after a heavy meat platter jumped out of the cupboard on one trip. Otherwise no problems at all.
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02-12-2017, 11:38 AM
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cdog7201
Join Date: May 2016
Location: IND
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And I just thought it was me that was a pain. I thought the popups were put together cheap until I bought a travel trailer. why does something made so cheap cost so much ? Because they can get away with it . AND brag about there good work .I wood look for a way to put screws into the studs in the walls they are not too hard to find .OR just put light stuff in the upper cabinets. all heavy things go into floor cabinets. And be gentle while driving down the road. How about it .
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02-12-2017, 11:46 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lodi CA
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I know for a fact that mine are screwed to the aluminum studs Because I removed them to add shelves to them. A lot of work but worth it. I hate the way almost all RV's have no shelves in the kitchen cabinets. Hard to put dishes in there without stacking everything this way and that way hard to get anything out without removing everything you don't need.
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02-12-2017, 12:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
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Mine are all screwed in. When I cut the forward floor to ceiling cabinet in half I had to remove 12 screws to get just the four foot top half removed.
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02-12-2017, 10:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: South Jordan, UT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emm-dee
Mine are all screwed in. When I cut the forward floor to ceiling cabinet in half I had to remove 12 screws to get just the four foot top half removed.
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I wonder why if they really are screwed in that Forest River doesn't claim that?
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02-12-2017, 11:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhoth
I wonder why if they really are screwed in that Forest River doesn't claim that?
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They have said we really are screwed,just not very often! Youroo!!
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02-12-2017, 11:19 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
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My Rockwood 2608 had the bath cabinet fall of the wall at 2 months old. Just zip screws into wall without benefit of a stud. I replaced the 4 screws with plastic anchors and a few dabs of construction adhesive. Been ok for two years.MM
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02-17-2017, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Don't laugh, staples ARE awesome fasteners... I pulled up the carpet on my slide out (29HFS) that was held by no less than 75 staples, which in my opinion could just as well have held spring perches to frame, equally well. Thus saving time and money by eliminating need for a welder. I do think (no pictures so only quessing) that cabinets to wall should have screws, mine has buku.
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02-17-2017, 10:35 AM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
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Location: GA
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No issues with my V-lite and cabinets packed full. Later RJD
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02-17-2017, 02:16 PM
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Broken Toe
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Imperial (St. Louis) MO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhoth
Hi All, Coming from owning 2 Jayco trailers to a Shockwave trailer, wondering if there are any issues with cabinets falling off the walls because they are not screwed on like Jayco does.
Has anyone added grabber screws in spots to ensure they stay put?
Thank you for any replies.
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pretty sure all the cabinets that FR makes are screwed in place. They cut costs, but they ain't (totally) stupid.
Tim
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02-17-2017, 02:33 PM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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Bet?....lol
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02-17-2017, 03:37 PM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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This Rockwood has 3/4 by 3/4" strips stapled to inside of cabinet walls and those have the least amount of screws required to hole cabinets to the walls
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02-17-2017, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdog7201
why does something made so cheap cost so much ? Because they can get away with it .
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I personally find them to be much less expensive than I'd expect(entry level rigs, anyway). I can get a basic aluminum sided TT in the 27' range with no slide for around $15K. A basic cargo trailer in that size would cost you north of $6K easily. A/C, heater, oven, water heater, holding tanks, fridge, toilet, sinks, etc., inside completely finished out, all electrical and plumbing, flooring, insulation, windows, doors, trim, cabinetry, propane, beds, lighting, tub/shower and so on.......I don't think there's any way I could build one myself for less, even if my time wasn't taken into account. Now, if I paid $80K for a 40' luxury FW, I think I'd be a little more picky about how it was put together.
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