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Old 09-30-2016, 06:01 PM   #11
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Nice! Thinking outside the box!
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Painting over

I painted my '87 Starcraft decals about 12 years before I sold it. The paint held up just fine and looked like new when I sold it last summer. So, yes, it will work, hold up, and is worth the effort.
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Old 10-02-2016, 04:36 PM   #13
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Decals are vinyl..no sanding, no primer. Clean thoroughly with rubbing alcohol on microfiber rag. Non toxic. Tape off, swiping motion spray. Three coats. Will hold up just fine. Krylon Fusion Automotive paint. Easy to do, no hassles, easy color choices or change it up. Down day today, high winds, but taped off remaining banbers. Just have to cover exposed areas and I will be completed with one side of unit. * pic posted sideways.
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Old 10-04-2016, 10:58 PM   #14
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That is a great idea. Thanks for sharing the pictures and technique.

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Old 10-05-2016, 12:45 AM   #15
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So you painted on top of the vinyl?
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:23 AM   #16
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I painted an ATV seat many years ago with vinyl paint.
Correct prep is the key. (Mac is right)
Mine held up for years sitting and sliding my butt on it.

If folks would just get out and wax their decals with a good Carnuba wax, they will hold up much longer. You can also polish some of the dead surface off for a brighter look before they need to be changed or refinished.

Some plastics can be polished out also. Headlamps come to mind.
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I painted an ATV seat many years ago with vinyl paint.
Correct prep is the key. (Mac is right)
Mine held up for years sitting and sliding my butt on it.

If folks would just get out and wax their decals with a good Carnuba wax, they will hold up much longer. You can also polish some of the dead surface off for a brighter look before they need to be changed or refinished.

Some plastics can be polished out also. Headlamps come to mind.
Actually waxing will not prolong the colors. Cast and Calendared vinyl has a life span before color fade and material failure. A good cast vinyl is about 7 years give or take depending on how much sunlight exposure it receives. Printed vinyl can approach this time frame depending on the brand ie Oracal and 3M. Blue colors tend to fade faster then other colors. I personally would be wary of painting over it considering the adhesive and materiel is breaking down, to me it would only be a short term fix. It would have been easier to take a photo of the side of the RV and retrace the shapes in Adobe illustrator and scaled them to size and re cut the vinyl. I have done this for several clients over the years and have wrapped a couple RV's as well bring old back to life.
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I am curious if you had crack lines in your decals. I have crack lines and I am of the opinion that they would have to be filled first before painting. Do you know what product to use to fill the cracks? Painting of the decals is an interesting concept. I know it will take exquisite detail and patience but I am up for the challenge.
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Actually waxing will not prolong the colors. Cast and Calendared vinyl has a life span before color fade and material failure. A good cast vinyl is about 7 years give or take depending on how much sunlight exposure it receives. Printed vinyl can approach this time frame depending on the brand ie Oracal and 3M. Blue colors tend to fade faster then other colors.
Carnuba does from my experience as a detailer.
The fat and alcohol cleans, treats and protects it to an extent.
Not going to last forever but prolongs the life IMO.
Of course mine is non scientific but experienced based.

Exposure is the culprit.
Precisely why I keep mine covered.
My last trailer decals were 14 years old.
Only upper caps weathered due to the constant rubbing of the crappy cover on them.
Sides were in VERY good condition.
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I am curious if you had crack lines in your decals. I have crack lines and I am of the opinion that they would have to be filled first before painting. Do you know what product to use to fill the cracks? Painting of the decals is an interesting concept. I know it will take exquisite detail and patience but I am up for the challenge.
Google Whizzy Wheel. I just used it to remove some very old baked on vinyl graphics. Works great and very easy. If not all the glue comes off then use acetone and plastic razor blades. Then you can paint them back on or get new graphics without worry about cracks or old graphics underneath eventually peeling off along with your new paint.
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