Hard start capacitors

[HONDAMAN174]

Looking for info on a hard start capacitor for a microwave and Mach 3 A/C unit. Only have 2000 watt gen to power trailer so looking for a solution vs. Bigger gen which I can't carry/move.

[TURBS]

how many amp outlet does your gennie have ?

[LadyWindrider]

Second sentence in original post, "Only have 2000 watt gen to power trailer"

Maybe we need to take time to read ALL of the original post before firing off a response.

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by windrider

Second sentence in original post, "Only have 2000 watt gen to power trailer"

Maybe we need to take time to read ALL of the original post before firing off a response.

Maybe you should take your advice and read my post!

I CLEARY asked what his outlet AMP was. Not watts
I also clearly asked a question and did not fire off a response.

If he only has a 15 or 20 amp outlet a hard start capacitor will not solve any problems.
to. Run air and a micro at same time would require more than 20 amps

[Herk7769]

This "bickering" is not helping Hondaman174.

Hondaman174,

It might help to know what you are trying to accomplish. Is your Honda 2000 the EU200i or the EU200i Companion (or something else)?

[HONDAMAN174]

Okay...good to see others trying to help me.

To answer all questions, gen is a honeywell (generac) 2200. Rated continuous output is 2000 @ 17 amps. Not trying to power both at same time just trying to power up a/c to cool or micro for a short burst.

[TURBS]

Most a/c units need 16 amps to start 13 amps to run
Most micros. Need between 8 to 13 amps to run

Spp6e or spp6 hard start kit it what you need for air conditioner
made by supco

I don't believe there's anything for micro. But I could be wrong.

[BigDTx]

ok, lets all be nice here!

[TURBS]

Also is that 17 amp continuous amps or surge amps?
if its surge amps you don't have enough gennie to properly run air in my opinion.

[jimh]

hard start capacitor will only work with motors. ur microwave wouldn't qualify. motors in microwaves are very small. the big user (magnetron) isn't reactive.
hard start capacitor would help ur air/c. may want to check the manufacture web site for kits. i've read some post here where they have been added and work.
ur generator should be large enough. u will have to consider the other items it is trying to run at the same time to know for sure. ie converter, frig, tv, hot water heater...
i believe f1100turbo has a good guide showing usage of the other items in ur trailer.

[LadyWindrider]

My apologies. I should have added that Watts = voltage times current. Therefore 2000 watts, as originally posted, divided by 120 volts equals 16.6 amps.

Now if we go with 2200 watts, amperage equals 18.3 amps.

Post #6 stated 17 amp continuous, or roughly 2000 watts. Take in account some looses for cords and such, and the converter running, altitude, etc., it will be tough to run the AC. Also if you have a 15,000 btu air conditioner, it will never start, even with hard start capacitor.

[TURBS]

One other thing to keep in mind is many RV appliances require more amps to start the appliance than they do to run the appliance. A roof air conditioner can draw 16 amps to start, but may only use 13 amps once it is running.
120 Volt AC Amp RatingsAppliance or Electronic EquipmentEstimated AmpsAir Conditioner (X number of A/C)12-16 AmpsBlender5-6 AmpsCoffee Maker5-8 AmpsCompact Disc Player1 AmpComputer (Laptop)2-3 AmpsConverter1-8 AmpsCrock Pot1-2 AmpsCurling Iron<1 AmpDrill2-6 AmpsElectric Blanket0.5-1.5 AmpsElectric Fan1 AmpElectric Water Heater9-13 AmpsElectric Skillet6-12 AmpsHair Dryer5-12 AmpsIron5-10 AmpsLight (60 watt % 120V)<1 AmpMicrowave8-13 AmpsMicrowave (Convection Oven)13 AmpsRefrigerator in AC mode5-8 AmpsSpace Heater8-13 AmpsTelevision1.5-4 AmpsToaster7-10 AmpsVacuum (handheld)2-6 AmpsVCR1-2 AmpsWasher/Dryer14-16Amps 12 Volt DC Amp RatingsAppliance or AccessoryEstimated AmpsAisle Light1 AmpCO Detector1 AmpFluorescent Light1-2 AmpsFurnace10-12 AmpsLP Gas Leak Detector1 AmpOverhead lights (Per Bulb)1 AmpPorch Light1 AmpPower Roof Vent1.5 AmpsRadio/Stereo4 AmpsRange Hood (Fan & Light)2-3 AmpsRefrigerator (LP Gas Mode)1.5- 2 AmpsSecurity System1 AmpTelevision (12 volt)4-5 AmpsTV Antenna Booster<1 AmpTV Antenna Booster 12 Volt outletUp to 8 AmpsVariable Speed Ceiling / Vent Fan4 AmpsVCR Recorder / Player2 AmpsWater Pump4 Amp

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by windrider

My apologies. I should have added that Watts = voltage times current. Therefore 2000 watts, as originally posted, divided by 120 volts equals 16.6 amps.

Now if we go with 2200 watts, amperage equals 18.3 amps.

Post #6 stated 17 amp continuous, or roughly 2000 watts. Take in account some looses for cords and such, and the converter running, altitude, etc., it will be tough to run the AC. Also if you have a 15,000 btu air conditioner, it will never start, even with hard start capacitor.

thanks for the watt = voltage times current .
I never remember the formula and had I could have figured it out my self .

[frankm]

Originally Posted by f1100turbo

I never remember the formula and had I could have figured it out my self .

turbo, I also can't remember the formula (to just about anything) without associating it to something easier to remember. So, anytime I need to calculate volts, amps or watts, I think of a WAVE. As in Watts = Amps * Volts. The E is for excellent!

[bikendan]

i have never heard of a Honeywell starting a Coleman a/c, even with a hard-start kit, on any RV forum. maybe it would a Dometic.
it'll be interesting to see if the OP can get it to work.

[rbarrieau]

How much of the initial amp draw could be reduced if the Fan on the A/C is running prior to turning on the A/C unit?

[TURBS]

not sure what you mean ?

[HONDAMAN174]

Alright...thanks everyone. The capacitor is pretty cheap so I'm going to give that a try. I'll repost how it works after I get it in.

[KyDan]

Originally Posted by rbarrieau

How much of the initial amp draw could be reduced if the Fan on the A/C is running prior to turning on the A/C unit?

My honda eu2000 will start my roof AC on a nice cool day in Kentucky at
600 ft alt.
Out west at 6000 feet on a warm afternoon it won't.
I tried turning on the fan first so both motors wouldn't be trying to start
at the same instant but still no go.
I never tried a bigger capacitor.

[rbarrieau]

Hondaman sounds like the EU2000 companion is needed to run your roof top with no problems. never mind I thought you had a Honda 2000.
can you link your generator to another?