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Old 07-29-2011, 11:57 AM   #31
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Nigel, also go get a couple tubes of caulking, and find the air leaks in the duct works, the entainment center at the top was a big one for me as Sid recommends, also over the sink cabinet, I even found lights that had air coming from them, all said and done we used 2 tubes, the vents now will not close now we have so much air going through them, I will know this weekend how much better the system cools.

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Old 07-29-2011, 02:36 PM   #32
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Nigel, here is the place you need

Hey Brit, you are in luck for there is a "HARBOR FREIGHT TOOLS" in Carson City.



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Repairing the air leak-------

Repairing the A/C air leak in the top cabinet above the the TV.

This can apply to any of Forest River's fifth wheels RVs. The leak usually shows up where the roof on the fifth wheel starts the "UPWARD" slope up
on the roof. The seam or "joint" is hidden usually in a cabinet that goes all the way to the ceiling. When the finish trim was "stapled" or "nailed" over the "joint" or "seam", the installer failed to secure the trim to the ceiling on the front edge of the trim.

My fix was to use a small drill bit to drill pilot holes on the front edge of the trim every 4". DRILL ONLY THE TRIM FOR PILOT HOLES. I used small Phillips head sheet metal screws 3/8" long. After the screws were started into the ceiling, you have to force "UPWARD" on the screws to
pull the trim against the ceiling. Do not try to pull the trim up with just one screw. Use all the screws just a little at a time to evenly pull the trim against the ceiling from one end to the other end. When you are finished forcing the trim against the ceiling, caulk your trim on both sides.
You can use silicone or just plain painters caulk. No one can see the job after you are finished. The end results is to seal the A/C leak.

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Old 07-29-2011, 08:53 PM   #34
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Thanks guys

Went to Harbor Freight this morning and bought the "Nibbler" seems I will be nibbling for hours, also got the caulk and a can of foam if I need it.

'let you know how I get on.

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Everyone notice how -----------

Everyone notice how trainable the Brits are when their beer is evaporating in the heat??????

Nigel, let us know how your mod turns out?
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Hey Sid I'm on to it......Following your every instruction

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On a more serious note here is what I found:

Possibly the rear kitchen is ducted different to a central kitchen model. On a rear kitchen the airco sits right at the back of the roof and air flows to the Lounge and Bedroom through two ducts port and starboard the air has to do a 90 deg. (The fan axis is front back). a 90 deg turn is not good for airflow!

I opened up both sides as per Sids instructions but the crazy thing is that there is a branch opened up to the rear as well as though there are vents at the rear and there isn't any in an aft kitchen model. So I blocked off the rear part of the "T" with foam and then inserted some strips of vinyl flooring tight enough fit to create a curve to improve airflow, These I stuck in with caulk, I finished off by caulking every rough edge and gap to create a smooth airflow.

I also fixed the leak in the cupboard above the TV.

So everything is back together and working fine.

On my beer evaporation measurment device I guess there is a good 50% more cool air coming out the vents in the bedroom
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Don't know about the mod-----------

Nigel, don't know where you improved the air flow or not, but from the pictures, you sure got the "BEER MOD" down pat. Looks like you need a larger ladder to just hold the beer.

I was looking at a room "Roll Around" ac yesterday that you can sit in a corner near a window for the exhaust of a 6" hose. It was 110Vac @ 9000
BTU for $289.00. Pretty neat for a portable AC. Was not very large in size.

It is encouraging that the air flow to the bed room increased, at least it will be "COOL" zzzzzzzzzz's

Anyway, let us know in a couple of days if you can see or feel any different in your AC performance? At least it will slow down the evaporation of your beer

Sort of surprised me that your AC is all the way in the rear of your fifth wheel. I guess different models are changed in the way the AC is installed.

You and the Navigator have your parts of the US turned around for your visit. You are suppose to be in New England in the summer and in Carson City in the winter. Someone else mentioned it was 110° near Carson City.
Nigel, It has been hot just about anywhere you can be.
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mg0427---------

Michael, Nigel just added two pages to the A/C mod, it takes a full case (24) of beer for a Brit to get the job done.

Just a thought, did BEV put the mattress on the floor in case Nigel fell off the ladder??

Michael, let us know how your A/C mod worked out for you after your weekend?
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Hey Sid.....we are sitting here with our thermals on its so coooooold
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