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Old 05-10-2016, 06:34 PM   #21
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Sounds like we'll be able to compare notes soon!

Would you mind saying why you are ditching the water heater the RV came with and why you chose what you chose?

Cheers!
I am ditching the 6 gallon water heater because with 2 adults and 2 teenagers we can't all shower in a reasonable time frame. The 6 gallon gas and electric heater did a good job recovering between showers but the showers were just too short.

I chose the Suburban because it looked like the easiest replacement. I am removing a Suburban water heater. I also liked the 60000 BTUs. Suburban is made in Dayton, TN and I live in TN and like supporting a local company. The price from PPL was better than the other models I have seen. Their promotional video did a good job convincing me their product would do what I wanted.

My second choice was likely the Atwood.

I hope this helps.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:38 PM   #22
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I am looking forward to your review of the IW60!
FedEx is to deliver tomorrow. I will take some pictures and post as I go along. I have this weekend and next to get it installed. I hope I have an easy time and can give some good feedback. We will be hitting the road Memorial Day to try it out.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:24 PM   #23
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Sounds reasonable!


My wife has been washing her hair in small sailboats and travel trailers for over 30 years and said that this latest TT with the Suburban 6 gal was "unacceptable". That's when I went shopping.


The 3rd generation Girard was going to be easier to get for us and so we are having it installed in time for our Memorial Day trip as well.


We'll see!
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:23 AM   #24
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Got the Girard installed and tested!

I had the gen III Girard installed and picked the trailer up Saturday. When we did some tests at the shop, the water output from the pump was very poor, surging and very intermittent. The WH would not fire in those conditions so I was initially very disappointed.

On city water, everything worked fine so after some back and forth, checking bypass valves and possible kinks, the valve on the input to the WH, adjusting the water pump, we sub'd a new pump and the issue went away!. So, we have a new WH and a new WP and are all set to head out this Wednesday for a week at an electric-only site in Olema, CA.

I'll report back after we take the first shower with the new WH.

Cheers!
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:18 AM   #25
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I ordered the Suburban IW60 yesterday. When it comes in and I get it installed I will provide a review.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:04 PM   #26
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Not sure if this is one people are looking at but not bad price from what I've seen so far.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:31 PM   #27
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What i dont understand is why no one tries to install a second heater either before the factory propane or after the factory unit, atleast in my 2000 24 ft tt theres enough room for 2.

They make 4 gallon and 6 gallon on demand kits that would tandem nicely with a 6 gallon propane?
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:15 AM   #28
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What i dont understand is why no one tries to install a second heater either before the factory propane or after the factory unit, atleast in my 2000 24 ft tt theres enough room for 2.

They make 4 gallon and 6 gallon on demand kits that would tandem nicely with a 6 gallon propane?
This is essentially what I am planning to do, add a 1.3 or 2.5 gallon point of use electric water heater after the Girard. it will plug in right where the old Suburban did and keep the water in it's tank nice and hot when we have power while camping, which is 99.5% of the time. This solves the "first quart" or "first Gallon" problem with on demand WH like the Girard and the others. They all take some time to get the hot water flowing and if you are talking a nice hot shower, it's not a big deal but if you are washing your hands or rinsing dishes, it's huge. You don't have hot water for 8-12 seconds and that is all the time (or water) you need to wash or rinse. You shut the tap and then, turn it on again in a few seconds and you have a second of hot water and then cold until the on demand gets going. It's a little irritating, I can tell you!

So, I am looking for a used tiny tank WH to show up on CL that I can buy and plumb into the water system in the trailer at the output of the Girard. Then, we will have the best of both worlds!

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Old 06-22-2016, 11:54 AM   #29
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Why not change shower head to the style that has a slide to on and off water flow....no mess'n with faucets once set
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Old 06-22-2016, 02:04 PM   #30
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Why not change shower head to the style that has a slide to on and off water flow....no mess'n with faucets once set
Because as soon as the water flow rate decreases, like when you slide off the water flow at the head, the water heater shuts down.

When you slide the water on, the water heater takes 6-9 seconds to start back up again. During that time you get cold or non-heated water.

That's the definition of the 1st quart problem. EVERY time you cut the flow through the on-demand water heater, it stops heating.
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