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Old 01-03-2011, 10:04 AM   #41
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New LED lanps

Hi all, i have some background in outdoor lighting and have been using LED bulbs for the lasy year. i have been buying lamps from Illumicare's LED Lighting Store - Landscape & Commercial LED Lighting - Innovate | Integrate | Illuminate for use in outdoor applications. These lamps are made to used in outdoor applications and as such are made to better standards then the units you are seeing from the ebay sites. also they are being sold by a local (CDN) company and have a 2 year warranty.
also the colour temp is in the 3000k range, just as standard MR16 are... very hard to find LED's that are direct replacement.

have a look, this may be what you are looking for?

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Old 01-03-2011, 10:35 AM   #42
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I just looked at those. They are ridiculously expensive, IMHO.

The T-5 connector looks right for our 912/921 replacements and the single contact one looks like it will work with 1156 bases.

At 72 dollars per fixture (2 T-5 bulbs @ 38 bucks) these are so far out of my price range as to be useless.

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"Very high efficiency of 70+ lumens per watt "
Yet no where does it say how many watts it pulls. At 200 milli-watts (about what my Hong Kong 36 LED pad draws) that 38 dollar plus shipping and handling lamp puts out a staggering (yawn) 14 lumens.
I like the idea of the built in heat sinks, but a small strip of "Extreme Velcro" will allow cooling air around the pad (which does get hot I will readily admit).
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:50 AM   #43
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hi, a quick reply to your comments. they draw 3.5 watts wich puts the lumens at approx 250 lumens. perhaps one per light fixture is all you need?
the heat sink is integeral to the units lifespan. heat is the chipsets worst enemy and without it they generally fail premature. note that the colour rendition in these leds are most likley the best in the market due to the fact that they built for the outdoor lighting market... not meant for the tail light of your car! also comes with 2 year warranty and if you sign up for an account the pricing is different....i think.

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Old 01-04-2011, 07:54 AM   #44
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https://store.illumicaregroup.com/as...ec%20Sheet.pdf

this is the sheet that shows power consumption of each lamp. not all draw the same.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:02 AM   #45
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Additional comments: "Very high efficiency of 70+ lumen per watt "
Yet no where does it say how many watts it pulls. At 200 milliwatts (about what my Hong Kong 36 LED pad draws) that 38 dollar plus shipping and handling lamp puts out a staggering (yawn) 14 lumens.
I must apologize as I made a mistake here. The 36 LED pads draw .2 amps (or 200 milliamps not watts). 200 milliamps x 12 volts = 2.4 watts so if the LEDs are similar in output it would be 178 Lumen per pad.
I have an email out to the vendor of the 36 LED pads asking for the lumen output of the pads. One of the 36 LED pads per fixture is not enough for room lighting IMO, so 2 are required. Will post lumen info if I ever hear back from the "Chinese connection."

I must reiterate that the heat sinks are an awesome and welcome addition but still pricey compared to the "under 10 bucks" 36 LED pad type.
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see if they can tell you what the colour temp is. i am guessing it is a not very warm. yes, these are more money, but they are built for an industry that demands them to be perfect! just thought some may be interested.

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Old 01-04-2011, 06:46 PM   #47
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You may look at www.superbrightleds.com they offer a wide variety of LED lighting even a section on RV's. I have had good luck with them.
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Old 01-16-2011, 03:43 PM   #48
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Thanks for the posts. The more sources of LED lights we know of, the better. And if price were no object, getting more expensive ones might be the ticket. Esp. since the cheap (under $10) Hong Kong panels have yet to prove themselves in long term useage.

But at this point the cheap Hong Kong units are still in the running. For me, that's only in the 2 month time frame since this thread was begun and why I started it. The minute the 24 and 36LED panels FAIL I will report that news.

Not that I want them to fail. On the contrary, I am cheering them on!
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:33 PM   #49
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[QUOTE=herk7769;76584]I just looked at those. They are ridiculously expensive, IMHO.


was on the site the other day and saw that they are doing a sample pricing promo, this may be the opportunity to give them a shot?
here is the website link

LED Lamp Sample Kit
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:09 PM   #50
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Mounting Problem Solved

After several attempts to keep the LED pads from dropping after they get warm and melt the glue, I found the perfect hybrid solution.
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Great idea with the wire ties. Gonna use that one. Thanks
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:32 PM   #52
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That is extreme duty Velcro on the back. The fuzzy side is in the fixture.
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:28 PM   #53
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Hey Lou,

You wouldn't happen to have some night time photos showing the light difference between your standard bulb vs. the led plate, do you? I'm interested in seeing the difference between the two.

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FWIW I don't know if it has already been mentioned or not but Camping World is now selling the things in various configurations and with differing bases. However - $$$$
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:27 AM   #55
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The 36 LED pads are about 150% as bright as the standard bulb and draw about 1/10th the power. 150 milliamps vs 1.2 amps for the bulb.

I am VERY happy with the light output. They do get hot (NO WHERE NEAR as hot as the bulb!) and the supplied sticky pads do not hold by themselves. I was unsuccessful in finding a sticky velcro or double sided tape that would hold up to the heat buildup. So the solution was to use the extreme velcro and the cable ties. Just make sure you do not flex the board too much installing them (the tracings are a bit fragile and I lost 3 leds on one pad by pushing too hard on the center while I was trying to get them to stick).

Also make sure the cable tie width will fit between the LEDs.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:17 PM   #56
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These photos were taken at night with ONE fixture providing light. The LED pad was on one side and the incandescent wedge base bulb on the other.
Can you tell which is which?
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Here are some LED's that I am using and they are $4.99 with free shipping. They offer the warm white color which is most like an incandescent light or the pure white which is most like fluorescent lighting.

The seller is dxy_dxyduan. The set does come with 3 plug bases; festoon, wedge base, and bayonet.

The set I bought are here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Hopefully they last longer than the "1 year" life that people are experiencing here.
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I'm going to guess that the light on the left side is the LED set and the right is the regular bulb. Am I right? The LED's tend to look more blueish or "cold" and the bulb looks yellowish or "warm". However the light output looks to be about the same from both, which is huge for finding a good low amperage replacement. Thank you for posting those for me, it's nice to see what exactly the difference is between the two.

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Find a "warm white" set of LED's. They are closest to an incandescent bulb and not the "cold" white of a fluorescent.
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The bulb on the left is the LED pad. It does look a bit" Bluer" that the yellowish incandesent bulb. Trust me when I say the photo does not do the "brightness" justice. They are awesome bright; a SMALL fraction of the heat; and 10% of the power. I am sold.
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