LED 12 volt lighting: Long term results

[miatared]

My only concern with the above bulb is that it will sit very close to the reflector on top and the cover at the bottom, due to its size, issues with heat for sure I think...

I prefer the flat panel design, once it is secured to the top it only send light and heat down and is as far as can be from the cover.

[BobandArlene]

Originally Posted by miatared

My only concern with the above bulb is that it will sit very close to the reflector on top and the cover at the bottom, due to its size, issues with heat for sure I think

It runs far cooler than an incandescent, so heat will not be an issue.

[BobandArlene]

So I did some testing last night....

I reinstalled one of the scorching hot incandescent bulbs (a 921) in the fixture and let the fixture run with both the LED and the 921 turned on.

Temps measured with a Fluke brand Infrared temp gun were 140 deg F for the incandescent, and about 80 deg F for the LED. This was the temperature of the lens.

I took the lens off, and measured the temp right behind the bulb... 240 deg F for the incandescent, and about 140 ish for the LED.

[Herk7769]

I would love to see the numbers for the 36 LED flat one.

[ken0042]

Wait........wait..........wait!

Lou- you mean there is a tool that you don't own?

[Herk7769]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Wait........wait..........wait!

Lou- you mean there is a tool that you don't own?

Oh, I have a thermal imager around here somewhere....

Where? Now THAT is a problem!

[kijak]

I have seen a few posts on led lights, I have replaced one of the hanging spots in my rockwood 8285ws, with a LED bulb I picked up at camper world and I have to say I love it, it's the BA15S, part number 52625, it fit very nicely in the fixtue, the light is a bit bluer then the old one but very bright and cool to the touch. I would like to replace the other lights especially the double ceiling lights in those fixtures that you find in all campers. The bulb is a wedge type. RG921, and I'd like to find a good replacement for those next, and a better source for the $$$, I have spent a lot of time on google but I just don't have any experience with the online stuff, any suggestions of good places, and issues to watch for? Thanks every one..

[BigRed]

Ebay !!

[dtb7811]

Try this site http://www.superbrightleds.com/ reasonable prices and shipping.I bought some 921-12 and got a warm white 3200k and what they call a natural white 7000k but at 7000k I thought it would have some blue in it but it didnt,it was a nice white light,tech guy said it is more like 5000k and I would agree. I paid 5.95ea plus
2.99 for shipping.I replaced my ceiling lamps in my 2306. Good luck.

[Herk7769]

Post 50 and 56 have instructions.
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ults-9233.html

[KoolAide]

Originally Posted by dtb7811

Try this site LED Lights & Accessories - SUPER BRIGHT LEDS reasonable prices and shipping.I bought some 921-12 and got a warm white 3200k and what they call a natural white 7000k but at 7000k I thought it would have some blue in it but it didnt,it was a nice white light,tech guy said it is more like 5000k and I would agree. I paid 5.95ea plus
2.99 for shipping.I replaced my ceiling lamps in my 2306. Good luck.

I've been looking at superbriteleds.com but am having a hard time deciding which is best. Did you get the 921-CW12 below? I skipped right past those because of the 70 deg beam pattern but if you were happy with them they maybe the ticket and the price is right

[dtb7811]

That is true about the 75 degree not the best beam spread but I like the price,the ones that are 360 degree are twice as much.I personally don't like very bright lights so might not be what you want but to try two is worth doing in my opinion.I ordered the 921-nw12 not cw.let me know how you make out either way,I'm always interested in any led info,just becareful from who you buy from if they only offer cool white or warm white make sure you know the Kelvin or temp. Rating. I have learned that the eBay people offer "cool white,nice white light" when in fact they have a bad blue tinge to them and look awful.

[kijak]

I went shopping today and picked up a couple diffrent lights from, camping world, and pleasureland RV here in the Mn. The first was the LED Wedge Connection 15 diode Bulb, Top mount fixture, cost 18.89 Club price. The wedge connection went right in the existing socket, The light was pretty Bright, but a lot of Blue Tint to it, The other was the Revolution 160 It puts out 160 lumens at .208a, and didn't seam as bright but had a more pleasing warmer tone, I like that one better, Just was a little less intense at the 921's that came with the camper. It was just a little more money, I'm going to look at the Revolution 250 and take a look at that one next, Pictures really didn't look very good Sorry, I didn't put them up.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by herk7769

Post 50 and 56 have instructions.
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ults-9233.html

Great- now we have two threads and I'm not sure where to post this.

Tonight for fun I decided to try out both the regular incandescent bulbs and the LED bulbs. The LED bulbs I have bought are these ones.

So in both pictures I have the exact same fixtures on. My trailer has 3 ceiling fixtures with 2 bulbs, and the one fixture over the sink that takes a single bulb. As you can see in the pictures; yes the incandescents do produce more light than the LEDs. However I would say the LEDs do provide more than enough light.

In case anybody is wondering; I took the pictures around 10:30pm- which is about 40 minutes after sunset here. That's about as dark as it's going to get for a while. I also used my iPhone to take the pictures, so there was no flash used.

[KoolAide]

I ordered some WLED-WWHP10-DAC (98 lm)

and some WLED-WWHP6 (55 LM)

From superbriteleds when they come in I'll report back on how they perform.

[stefatc]

I have a question which might be stupid but if dought... ask! When I was in Ontario, we didn't use the batteries at all (only 2 week-ends of camping). Since we lived in Nova Scotia we have almost just used the batteries. Once a while, we go the campground where they have the 3 services (water, sewer and electricity). I read every pages on that topic but there is a question left. I know the answer but I want to be 100% sure before I start to buy some LED. The logic is if I use the normal bulbs and I use the electricity of the campground, it should be the same for the LED, am I right? Don't forget that I am very new with TT. 8 years of camping with 5 kids, my wife and me in a big tent. So question about tent... I have the answerS lol.
Thanks guys

[Triguy]

Hi Stefatc, are you asking if LEDs can be used with either the camp ground electric or when camping dry on batteries alone? If so, then the answer is "yes".

[Herk7769]

Originally Posted by stefatc

if I use the normal bulbs and I use the electricity of the campground, it should be the same for the LED, am I right?

Triguy is right on. ALL the lighting in your camper is actually DC (battery voltage) and when you are on shore power your converter "makes" 12 VDC so they will work.

If you tried to use those 12 VDC incandescent bulbs on 120 VAC they would blow immediately.

Switching to LED lights (which are also 12 VDC) saves an amazing amount of power depending on how much light you use while camping. If you spend a lot of time camping without shore power, this mod (though expensive) is well worth it in my opinion.

For example a standard bulb draws 1.2 amps (there are two per standard fixture for a total of 2.4 amps per light) while an LED replacement draws 0.1 amps (100 milliamps - for a total of 200 milliamps per fixture).

Only using lights alone your battery will last about 10 times longer. Of course we use more than lights but you get the drift.

[stefatc]

A big think you to triguy and herk7769

[timorr98]

instead of glue , can you use small crimp connectors?