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Old 07-06-2010, 02:04 PM   #11
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My vote is for the day/night shades.
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:08 PM   #12
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Just got a 2010 Flagstaff 829RGSS and I have to say that so far I like the day/night shades compared to the mini-blinds I've always had before. For some reason FR still put mini-blinds on the kitchen window (perhaps for fire code) and in the bathroom. Not sure why there except maybe possible moisture issues?

I hope this isn't off-topic, but I also took down all those silly fake "curtains" that are attached with velcro and like the look much better. I think those are just something else to collect dust and get in the way while operating the shades.
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:40 PM   #13
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I fully understand "why the mini blinds in the kitchen". The greasy air and general cooking splatter so close to the blinds, and the fire possibilities due to their close proximity is more than likely their reasoning. As for the bathroom, ???? Randy
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:56 PM   #14
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We took out our day/night shades and put in insulated fabric roll up shades for warmth and light blocking. It is either warm and light all night, or cold and dark here, so the day/night shades didn't cut it for us.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:35 AM   #15
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I will prefer for mini blinds. Other says by having blinds, it will lead to energy savings throughout your home. Heating and cooling costs will come down dramatically. By having mini blinds, it will create a more insulated type of window.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:41 AM   #16
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I am afraid I agree with another member. we have day/nite blinds in our Georgetown. Two of them are coming apart (strings broken). I think we will replace them with miniblinds when they go completly. Their too expensive to repair.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:57 PM   #17
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You can use a high quality fishing line to repair the strings on the day night shades. It is an easy fix at a low cost.


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Old 11-09-2010, 06:05 AM   #18
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The day/night shades are adjustable, if you find that they are tight to move then you need to loosen the two bottom screws on both sides of the blinds at the bottom of the window and adjust the tension on the strings.

As far as saving energy with day/night shades, I did a test in Myrtle Beach two years ago in July and I posted the results on the forum.
To make it short and sweet of the results, I found that if you close the windows off with just the "night" portion of the shades the temperature will increase at the windows by 10 degrees.
The test was performed on a sunny day with temperature in the 90's, the a/c system that came with my rig was a 13,500 BTU unit and it could not keep up with demand.
I replace the 13,500 BTU Dometic unit with a Carrier 15,000 BTU unit and my wife made curtains to match the decor of the camper, this was all done prior to our trip to the same place a year later at the same time, with this change the temperatures were greatly reduce and the a/c actually satisfied and cycled normally.
Dark colors will attract heat and if you notice, that most camper are white on the out side with white roofs, this helps reduce the heat load on the camper.

Now to the best of my knowledge there are two types of day/night shades, the style that most of us have where the are the same color on both sides and then the type that our friends have that came with there Jayco, there's are dark on the inside but they are white on the out side (window side) these are actually insulated and they do not increase the heat load at the windows like mine do.....Now I am talking about the "night portion of the shade".

Mini blinds are not bad but metal blinds will hold the heat and radiate into the room, we have found with them closed, that if you turn them up from the inside the sun light will not heat up the floor or allow the sun light to penetrate between the openings of the blinds.

When you have about 275 sq ft of camper and you try to condition the space in 90 degree temperatures (out side air)or(ambient temperatures) all that heat is trying to fill the inside of the camper, heat moves to cold, so when ever you can reduce the heat load of any space then this will allow the equipment to operate easier, the more slide outs you have and the more windows and doors you have the greater the heat gain.
In the A/C world every thing is based on "Heat Gain or Heat Loss" but there are many more factors for consideration.....I need to stop.....I would like to apologize for getting carried away here.
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The day/night shades are adjustable, if you find that they are tight to move then you need to loosen the two bottom screws on both sides of the blinds at the bottom of the window and adjust the tension on the strings.

As far as saving energy with day/night shades, I did a test in Myrtle Beach two years ago in July and I posted the results on the forum.
To make it short and sweet of the results, I found that if you close the windows off with just the "night" portion of the shades the temperature will increase at the windows by 10 degrees.
The test was performed on a sunny day with temperature in the 90's, the a/c system that came with my rig was a 13,500 BTU unit and it could not keep up with demand.
I replace the 13,500 BTU Dometic unit with a Carrier 15,000 BTU unit and my wife made curtains to match the decor of the camper, this was all done prior to our trip to the same place a year later at the same time, with this change the temperatures were greatly reduce and the a/c actually satisfied and cycled normally.
Dark colors will attract heat and if you notice, that most camper are white on the out side with white roofs, this helps reduce the heat load on the camper.

Now to the best of my knowledge there are two types of day/night shades, the style that most of us have where the are the same color on both sides and then the type that our friends have that came with there Jayco, there's are dark on the inside but they are white on the out side (window side) these are actually insulated and they do not increase the heat load at the windows like mine do.....Now I am talking about the "night portion of the shade".

Mini blinds are not bad but metal blinds will hold the heat and radiate into the room, we have found with them closed, that if you turn them up from the inside the sun light will not heat up the floor or allow the sun light to penetrate between the openings of the blinds.

When you have about 275 sq ft of camper and you try to condition the space in 90 degree temperatures (out side air)or(ambient temperatures) all that heat is trying to fill the inside of the camper, heat moves to cold, so when ever you can reduce the heat load of any space then this will allow the equipment to operate easier, the more slide outs you have and the more windows and doors you have the greater the heat gain.
In the A/C world every thing is based on "Heat Gain or Heat Loss" but there are many more factors for consideration.....I need to stop.....I would like to apologize for getting carried away here.
great information, the rockwood we are looking at has the same window coverings, I love the tests you did. What can you tell me about the towing qualities of rockwood. The trailer is high compared to the surveyor which has a low center of gravity, both have torsion suspension. Any thoughts
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:42 AM   #20
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i think its the day/night blinds i have on all but one window. they are accordian and have tension wires to the bottom where the window sits. they work nice actually. had to re-adjust the one over the bed because it became loose and wouldnt stay up. turned out it just needed slacked then re tightened. there is springs in the bottom bar apparently!
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