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05-05-2015, 01:28 PM
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How many should I post before it is a Reality?  Youroo! 
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05-05-2015, 01:28 PM
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[QUOTE=Stryker_242;855271]
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Originally Posted by TURBS
The i-beam is welded. The steel looks to be about 1/8 - 3/16 of an inch in thickness, without actually measuring for now...
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I think if you put a micrometer or vernier to the web, you will find it considerably less than 1/8" (0.125"), closer to 0.075", which is close to 1/16" (0.063")
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05-05-2015, 01:31 PM
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How many should I post before it is a Reality? Youroo! |
I don't accept the premise that just because you can find 1 or 10,000 photos that someone else couldn't do it right, that I can't.
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05-05-2015, 01:34 PM
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Going to ignore the weight issue too?
And then you put on here why does my trailer sway.
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05-05-2015, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stryker_242
I don't accept the premise that just because you can find 1 or 10,000 photos that someone else couldn't do it right, that I can't.
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Lol,
I'll picture ya an eye opener!
Keep in mind this is a "true" 11" I beam on a forest river product.
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05-05-2015, 01:36 PM
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[QUOTE=OldCoot;855281]
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Originally Posted by Stryker_242
I think if you put a micrometer or vernier to the web, you will find it considerably less than 1/8" (0.125"), closer to 0.075", which is close to 1/16" (0.063")
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Probably true... I was looking at the thickness with the coating on it.
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05-05-2015, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
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I don't accept the premise that just because you can find 1 or 10,000 photos that someone else couldn't do it right, that I can't.
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Last comment. I would wager if you went to a certified welder, he would tell you to find someone else to do it if he has/had to guarantee it. He could guarantee his welds, but not the frame structure itself. IT' JUST TOO THIN! Besides it's not even quality steel.
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05-05-2015, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
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Going to ignore the weight issue too?
And then you put on here why does my trailer sway.
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Nope. That's why I got the trailer that I have, instead of a larger one, along with a sway bar for control.
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05-05-2015, 01:40 PM
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I think everybody should lighten up. I also think he knows better than to carry gens on the bumper and is awaiting ideas such as extending the frame past the bumper to handle the weight. I could be wrong I have been wrong many times before.
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05-05-2015, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
Last comment. I would wager if you went to a certified welder, he would tell you to find someone else to do it if he has/had to guarantee it. He could guarantee his welds, but not the frame structure itself. IT' JUST TOO THIN! Besides it's not even quality steel.
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Very well could be! I'll take it down to the local welder (who manufactures flatbed tow-trailers) and see what he tells me. If he says it can't be done, then I'm good with that. I'm persistent, not stupid. 
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05-05-2015, 01:40 PM
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As to questions about mounting the Gear Deck 17, the design of the twin-tube is such that the twin tubes are supported by a single 2" tube that goes into the receiver, sorta of like a "Y" shape. In addition to the youtube in my prior link, there's this one from etrailer eTrailer GearDeck Review.
By the way, one of the things that sold me on the GearDeck is that once you get to your camping spot, you can prop the storage lid up, and the whole unit is designed to slide out away from the trailer back so if careful, you can run the generator in place. I did that several times and the noise wasn't bad at all. Before I get hammered on fire danger, just let me say I did not fill a hot generator ever!
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05-05-2015, 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stryker_242
Very well could be! I'll take it down to the local welder (who manufactures flatbed tow-trailers) and see what he tells me. If he says it can't be done, then I'm good with that. I'm persistent, not stupid. |
This is a OPEN forum,why didn't you go ask (local welder) First and not drag us into your Bumper?  Youroo!!
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05-05-2015, 01:47 PM
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your answer to my weight question does not even make sense.
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05-05-2015, 01:47 PM
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Sorry for the confusion---Our Surveyor came with the factory installed bike rack. Our Yamaha generators are 44 lbs a piece. Forest River says- do not add any type of rack or frame to any recreational vehicle frame bumper or chassis part. This alteration may result in unstable handling, be a safety hazard or could damage the RV components. That being said our rack looks like it was slid into the trailer frame and welded to the frame. I have seen the frame of an RV bent because of excessive weight in that area but I'm not concerned with the weight of my generators.
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05-05-2015, 01:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SULTINI
I think everybody should lighten up. I also think he knows better than to carry gens on the bumper and is awaiting ideas such as extending the frame past the bumper to handle the weight. I could be wrong I have been wrong many times before.
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You're exactly right. I have my doubts that the bumper metal could handle the rigors of travel with a 300-pound load even with two reinforced points connected directly to the frame. However, I'm not convinced that the frame, itself, can't handle 300-pounds with two points bolted directly to the frame (even as thin as it is), which means each point bolted to the frame has to handle half the 300-pound load, or 150 pounds.
As I said before, all my assumptions have to be tested to determine whether they're true or false. And those tests would be under very controlled circumstances. I'm not about to put anyone at risk on a highway to find out if I'm wrong or not.
And if 2 receivers bolted to the frame can't do the job, then I may have to get a welder to reinforce the frame to support 4, 6, or 8 receivers until I have enough to do the job.
But most of you guys have the attitude, seemingly, that there isn't a solution.
I reject that notion.
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05-05-2015, 01:48 PM
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I agree with the comment about watching tongue weight. Anytime I changed my carry loads, I did a 3 CAT weigh to make sure that my tongue weight was always 12% to 15% of the total weight. Adding the Gear Deck to the back did take away some tongue but I was able to balance in the front cargo bin while keeping the total trailer weight within the GVWR.
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05-05-2015, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stryker_242
Nope. That's why I got the trailer that I have, instead of a larger one, along with a sway bar for control.
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My bad... thought you were assuming that if I'd ignore the weakness of the bumper or frame, that I'd pull a trailer weight that was too much for the tow vehicle. I misunderstood your snarky comment.
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05-05-2015, 01:52 PM
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I agree some people have no imagination or ever strive to achieve anything out of the box. youroo , dude you have to take a chill pill.
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05-05-2015, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
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This is a OPEN forum,why didn't you go ask (local welder) First and not drag us into your Bumper? Youroo!! |
You're just a barrel of laughs, youroo! 
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05-05-2015, 01:56 PM
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My question was not snarky it is something you have to think about. Your trailer does not have a lot of CCC so you need to be careful how much you put into it. My trailer has the same problem. I have a very large (for the trailers size) storage area in the back and I have to watch how much I put back there.
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