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Old 03-05-2014, 04:27 PM   #31
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Have had 4 new trailers since Jul 06 and none of the sensors have been correct on any of the 4. I dump the tanks about every 3 to 4 days when camping and pay no attention to any of them. Black tanks when brand new never read empty on any of them right from the factory. IMO they are useless or at best a "swag" at actual tank content.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:53 PM   #32
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I feel like I just gave the black tank a long overdue lower GI super cleansing.
That's funny... Glad to hear it is working for you.

Trend has a water softener in it, thus the reason I use it. Plus, it is nearly impossible to find Calgon down here in south Texas. The water is pretty soft out of the taps, so I don't think the stores stock the Calgon stuff.
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Old 03-06-2014, 05:17 PM   #33
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That's funny... Glad to hear it is working for you.

Trend has a water softener in it, thus the reason I use it. Plus, it is nearly impossible to find Calgon down here in south Texas. The water is pretty soft out of the taps, so I don't think the stores stock the Calgon stuff.
MAKE SURE it is water softener and not FABRIC softener. FABRIC softener has wax in it that will foul your sensors over time and will be impossible to clean.

Trend DOES have a water softener (Sodium Carbonate) but Liquid Calgon has Sodium Hydroxide and Citric Acid to condition the water.

http://www.whatsinproducts.com//file...d%20030904.pdf

MUCH more effective than washing soda.

http://www.whatsinproducts.com//file...d%20030904.pdf
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As mentioned, Sodium Carbonate is in Trend, and it is a very good water softener, one that has been used for a long time in lots of products. The Citric Acid in Calgon is in there to act as the water softner (calcium/divalent metal binder) but will drop the pH and make the solution (your load of wash, bath water, black tanks) acidic. That is why they add the strong base, Sodium Hydroxide; to bring the pH back up to nuetral or slightly basic. In the case of your black tanks, most of the beneficial bacteria like nuetral or slightly basic "living" conditions (pH 7.2-7.8).

Either way, they are both water softners, and in my hands, both work well in the GEO method. For me, I can go down and buy Trend at any Dollar General (there are about 1,000,000 of them in Texas), where as I have to order Calgon from Amazon, etc. The Trend product also has the detergent part of GEO, which means I just need to bring, store and add the one product to the tanks.
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Either way, they are both water softners, and in my hands, both work well in the GEO method. For me, I can go down and buy Trend at any Dollar General (there are about 1,000,000 of them in Texas), where as I have to order Calgon from Amazon, etc. The Trend product also has the detergent part of GEO, which means I just need to bring, store and add the one product to the tanks.
Which is an excellent point. Liquid Calgon is sometimes hard to find.
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I'm always willing to try something new, especially if it may save me $. I want to try the Trend in my tanks instead of the dishwasher packets. Around here, I can only find Trend at the Family Dollar stores. But, it has a florescent agent and a "bleach agent" in it. Would the "bleach agent" cause any problems?

I usually use an enzyme based tank additives and one or two of the dishwasher "drop ins" Those drop ins aren't necessarily cheap.

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I have yet to find Trend here in my corner of NC. Just wondering... does anyone know if Borax would work?
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I have yet to find Trend here in my corner of NC. Just wondering... does anyone know if Borax would work?
I just use Super Clean and Pinesol and my tanks are clean. At least I think they are. No smell, etc. and we drove from Orlando to mid way to Concord, NC with about 2 gal of water, Super Clean & Pinesol, dumped as soon as we parked overnite and nothing but the clear mixture. Mixed the same solution the morning we left and dumped when we got home and again, nothing but the clear mixture. Been using about a 8 oz of Super Clean, 8 oz of Pinesol and 3 toilet bowls of water since Nov and I think it is working great. We did put in a Blue Streak (Chemical Dispensing Systems for RV & Marine | Blue Streak LLC) on the toilet which has a 50-50 solution of Super Clean & Pinesol in it which dispenses with each flush.

p.s. Our sensors were NOT accurate when the camper was new and had had nothing but clear water in them.
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We have four "dollar" type stores in our area. The one I found the Trend in was the Family Dollar Store. Try there if you haven't done so. Calgon I always find at the Super Wal Mart stores.
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I use calgon water softener and about 1/4 cup of laundry detergent. After a couple of weeks camping I'll add 1/4 cup of bleach. When heading to a different location I'll add all the above to about 10 gallons of water and drive on never dumping the tank till it's about full.
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