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Old 01-15-2014, 09:24 AM   #11
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Thanks. What do you recommend as the best option for an Armada.
Not sure I've ever seen a sticker on the receiver - will have to look tonight.

We've been pulling a 2005 Fleetwood Niagra Tent Trailer, 3795lbs, and seen the 233s was only around 5,000lbs, so the dealer was saying they would need to check to see if they would be required...
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:45 AM   #12
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herk7769 when you say correct lube (Lithium Grease) in the bars sockets. I'm not sure just what is the bars sockets. Is it where the bars go into the head?
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:55 AM   #13
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Was able to look up the max tongue load for the 07 Armada - 900 lbs.
The hitch weight on the 233s says 623 lbs...
Not sure what these numbers mean as far as needing the WDS? Help please?
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:13 AM   #14
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I have a Roo 23SS (same as a Shamrock), and tow with a GMC2500HD Crew cab, which supports 1,500 lbs of tongue weight. My Roo tongue weight is right around 600lbs.

Can the truck tow w/o WDH or sway? Easily

Do I tow with the WDH anyway? Yes

But why you ask? For one, I already had the hitch from my F150 days, and as mentioned above, distributing that weigh evenly between the axles is just a good idea, plus the advantage of having sway control. Better safe than sorry!

And Befink, you definitely want weight distribution and sway control on an Armada. Between the (relatively) short wheel base, and being over 2/3 of your max tongue weight, you'll get a better, safer ride and more control distributing some of that weight forward, because it corrects the loss of weight on your front tires if you put all that weight on the tongue.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:14 AM   #15
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Befink- You should get the weight distributing hitch. The # for trailer tongue weight is an empty weight. Start loading your stuff and some full propane tanks and the trailer tongue weight will go up.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:23 AM   #16
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Awesome - Thanks for your help guys!
Now, any suggestions on which WDS to get?

Also, does the Shamrock 233s come with the pieces already on the frame to attach the WDS to - or do holes need to be drilled in the frame, and those connection pieces added as well?
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:27 AM   #17
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So it looks like the sway bar is an addition to the WDS?
I should get them both, correct?
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It depends on the hitch. I have a "lower end" Husky hitch, and it uses a friction bar for sway control.

You would be better served with an Equalizer or equivalent, which has sway control "built in" to the design. If I had to do it over again, and based on countless input from this forum, I would have bought the Equalizer.

All of these hitches come with the parts you need, no drilling required.
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So it looks like the sway bar is an addition to the WDS?
I should get them both, correct?
Here's a thread that had some good info in it about that:
Learn me on the hitch set-up
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What do you recommend as the best option for an Armada.
Reese Straight Line Dual Cam (round bars), Equal-i-zer 4 pt, or Blue Ox Sway Pro. If you really got the big bucks and want to go all out, the Propride or Hensley Hitch are top of the line.


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Was able to look up the max tongue load for the 07 Armada - 900 lbs.
You have to make sure that your receiver meets those specs.....that is where the sticker comes in. And, that is probably with a weight distributing hitch system. Weight carrying numbers are significantly lower.

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The hitch weight on the 233s says 623 lbs...

Not sure what these numbers mean as far as needing the WDS? Help please?
That 623 lbs of tongue weight will probably grow significantly as you load the trailer, plus you will be adding a battery and propane to the tongue. That may be close to a 750-800 lb. tongue weight ready to camp.

800 lb. spring bars should work with that trailer.

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Also, does the Shamrock 233s come with the pieces already on the frame to attach the WDS to - or do holes need to be drilled in the frame, and those connection pieces added as well?
I doubt that the Shamrock comes with any kind of WDH setup. Holes do need to be drilled in the trailer frame with the Reese Dual Cam setup......that is the disadvantage with the Reese.
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