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11-13-2011, 10:44 AM
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From the storage compartment, you drill down through the floor, and and run the wires underneath the rv to the battery box? How do you seal the hole? Not with thereof sealant, and I imagine.
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11-13-2011, 11:26 AM
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Yes. I've drilled a total of five holes in the floor in that area. The first pair was to bring the new #4 cables from the battery to the inside compartment junction box. I also drilled a hole and ran the factory positive and ground (originally connected to the battery) into the same box PLUS a twisted pair control wires for the controller, PLUS the battery temp monitoring wires for the controller. (Six small wires in a 3/4" hole.) I sealed these three holes with clear silicone, from inside and outside.
Later, when I installed the Xantrex 2000w converter, as I needed larger cables to feed that. It was easier, and neater (after the fact) to to drill another pair of holes, and run a pair of 1/0 cable rather than yank-out the #4's and redoing the original work. I then similarly sealed this pair of holes with silicone.
LEARN FROM MY MISTAKE - If you plan on adding a big inverter (2000W+/-), then run 1/0 (or whatever size you deam appropriate for your inverter) inside to begin with, as the inverter will likely require larger cables than the solar panel controller. I hadn't really planned on doing that until 2012, so I didn't research what size cables would be needed, but the project progressed so well that I went for it early, and found that I had undersized the feed....
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12-22-2011, 05:04 PM
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Wow. Lotta great info here. Kinda hard for a newb to fully grasp it all.
If I understand you correctly, youve got plenty of previous experience that let you know exactly how you wanted you're setup. It also seems like you bought and installed most of this particular system in the same general time span. Am I correct about that?
I was wanting some pointers on where to start. I've got my eye on a cheap FEMA trailer hoping I can start from there and have something nice. Do you guys know if they even have a 12v system in them or would I be starting from scratch. I'd like to eventually have a rig that could run off shore power or solar depending on myriad factors, mostly just what is actually up and running, fixable, totally trashed, etc. The key to my thinking on alot of this is redundancy. I want to go full time, for the rest of my life! Sticks and stones houses are just a little out of my price range being an ordinary average guy, but I think I can swing a trailer. Sick of renting.
So where to start? Whether I've got some 12v to start with or from scratch. I've got to do this in stages so I can reap the benefits of my effort but do it as possible, considering time and money.
My initial, very uneducated guess at a starting point would be to establish a solid, basic 12v system. I mean all led lights, some dc appliances, converter, and a very nice controller. I think that's the main unit isn't it? Seems like the foundation for it all and yes I realize that the inverter and charger if included would be dormant and wasted without batteries. The nice unit in this thread seems priced well and packed w features so I figured I'd ask you guys if that's the appropriate starting point.
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12-22-2011, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaredinnwarkansas
If I understand you correctly, youve got plenty of previous experience that let you know exactly how you wanted you're setup. It also seems like you bought and installed most of this particular system in the same general time span. Am I correct about that?
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Thanks for the compliment, but I'm far from "experienced" at this! It was only just a little more than a year ago that I really started seriously studying the possibility of going solar.
As for the FEMA trailers, my experience with them, and YES, because of my F/T employment in NYS Office of Emergency Management, I've had some exposure to FEMA trailers, it depends on which generation, from which contract, in which build-out year to know what you get. I've seen some with 12v systems, but the more recent ones, (especially the ones with the peaked roofs) only appear to have 110v systems. However, since you'd have to buy a controller, batteries, cables, and a good inverter anyway, you really wouldn't need an existing 12v system. Many of the propane appliances (especially refrigerators) require 12v control circuits, so consider that into your plans as well.
As I've expressed to many, mine may not be the most economical, or highest performer, but it more than meets my needs, and keeps me from having to run my generator for a few hours every day, allowing me to more enjoy my camping experiences!
Good luck, and be sure to use this forum to ask questions. There are any number of folks on this forum that understand solar MUCH better than I do!!!
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02-07-2012, 09:56 PM
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Just tossing ideas out here.
I have one of those TV antennas, you crank to raise it and then it has a collar so you can aim it... I wonder how much work it would take to modify one to raise and position your panel array. Even get it to track the sun AM to PM...
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02-07-2012, 10:02 PM
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Drinkin beer on the beach
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Also, I'm really new to all these trailers, and I'm having a hard time envisioning how you guys have everything setup. My generator and battery is mounted on my tongue, kind of out in the open. 99% of the camping I do is dry camping out in the desert on BLM land.
Im in Southern CA, and I can park pointed any direction I want with a fixed panel mount on or above my genset.
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02-26-2012, 09:51 AM
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Great Thread Fire Instructor! I really appreciate your consistent updates and attention to detail. Your descriptions are very clear and understandable. I copied some of your photos for my personal library as I will be tackling this similar project on my TT very soon. I will be converting a small home system to my TT and will definitely use some of your ideas as a base for my new system.
I also appreciate your comments on my thread at Ok, You installed a Solar Sys, How is it now? - Forest River Forums
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03-01-2012, 11:28 PM
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Wow!
I just hooked up my WD hitch for the first time. Hope to do my first camping trip for spring break.
I've got some electrical engineering to study.
Very impressed.
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03-24-2012, 03:06 AM
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I enjoyed reading your thread. I thought of going solar but could not justify the expense.I dry camp about 30 days a year and I would have wanted a system about the size of yours. I have alot of electircal toys 3 tv's, portable sat dish and two computers. I decided to go with four deep cycle batteries and converted half my interior lights to led's. I run the generator as needed to keep the batteries charged.. Some day if the cost to a high ouput solar system comes down I am in!
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03-26-2012, 08:36 PM
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Drinkin beer on the beach
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I don't know if this is the right place for this...
I found some Sunforce 30A charge controllers on ebay for $55 and free shipping. I went ahead and ordered one as I'm pretty sure these are MPPT charge controllers. I'm trying to piece together a system and buy things in stages instead of slapping $1000 or more on a credit card.
eBay - Sunforce 60022
I just thought this might get some of you guys off the fence and out playing with your toys.
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