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Old 09-10-2014, 06:53 PM   #1
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What type of LP pipe and electrical wiring.

Hi, I am an Australian buyer looking to export a Crusader 295RST to Australia. I am required to modify the camper when it arrives to comply with Aussie specs.
I have a few questions that I hope someone will be kind enough to answer:
What are the fixed LP lines, plastic, copper or steel?
What type and size of wiring is installed for the 110v outlets and what color are the cores?
I know these questions are technical questions but I'm sure someone on this very informative forum has this knowledge.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:01 PM   #2
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Hi, I am an Australian buyer looking to export a Crusader 295RST to Australia. I am required to modify the camper when it arrives to comply with Aussie specs.
I have a few questions that I hope someone will be kind enough to answer:
What are the fixed LP lines, plastic, copper or steel?
What type and size of wiring is installed for the 110v outlets and what color are the cores?
I know these questions are technical questions but I'm sure someone on this very informative forum has this knowledge.
Thank you in advance for your help.
LP line will most "likely" will be steel for the bulk of the runs.
Copper line will be ran to each device.
Rubber hose at the tanks to the regulator.



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I have the 2013 320RLT Crusader.
From what I have noticed the fixed propane lines are of steel, I think it is just black mallable. I don't think the lines are Forged steel or extra heavy.

As for the wiring I really don't know, to new to be ripping apart yet,.

Someone will eventually pipe up with the info you need.

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Thank you TURBS and John.
Bad news for me though as I think I will be required to change the lines to copper for Aussie compliance.
Steel is what I had expected though.
I assume that I will be able to access the lines or install copper lines without too much trouble?
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Old 09-14-2014, 02:40 PM   #5
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Not sure what you me on cores? 110 v ac outlets some are wired with # 14 american wire gauge some are #12 AWG colors are black is hot white neutral green bonded ground
Also what part of Australia are you from. I have several cousins in Western Australia , Perth


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Thank you Paul. That is exactly what I needed to know about the wire cores.
I have been told that I would need to replace the wiring but the size and colours that you mentioned are ok for Aus so maybe the wire for isn't rated for 240v which would surprise me.
Do you have any idea how many individual copper wires are in each color wire?
In Aus the wiring for mobile vehicles has to be classed as "flexible" wire which has 20-30 individual copper wires instead of just 7 in each core for fixed house wiring.
I am from the east coast of Australia which is around 4,000 Km's (2,500 mi) from Perth.
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The 110v lines are not stranded wires, but 14ga single strand. 14-2 with ground Romex. Black, white & bare.
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That would explain why the wire isn't Aussie compliant then.
Looks like I will be required to replace the wiring to every outlet.
From my research on these forums I have noticed that you (Old Coot) have done the occasional modification to your camper and might know how much trouble I am going to have with this rewiring.
Will I be able to access the required areas?
Thank you Old Coot for your help.
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That would explain why the wire isn't Aussie compliant then.
Looks like I will be required to replace the wiring to every outlet.
From my research on these forums I have noticed that you (Old Coot) have done the occasional modification to your camper and might know how much trouble I am going to have with this rewiring.
Will I be able to access the required areas?
Thank you Old Coot for your help.
Matt
IMO, if you have the underbelly completely open, it will still be a huge undertaking. Altho' I haven't seen any romex stapled, it would require a lot of work on your back under the trailer as well as rewiring all the receptacles for the appliances, converter, etc. Tremendous undertaking. Can it be done? You bet, but it is labor intensive. Probably take at least a week the way I work and that's after the underbelly is exposed. A second person would definitely speed it up when pulling wires and tracing them.
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1) send the Specs to Forest River and have them make it Aussie compliant.

2) Do you not have RV manufacturers where you live that are always in compliant?


The unit may be nice, but not if you have to rip out and rebuild a good portion of it.
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