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Old 05-28-2013, 03:00 PM   #11
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we had a f15 come thru the factory (boeing stlouis) that lost his entire rt wing and it still made it home, Israel was the country, I saw tons of pictures around the plant, we also went to NAS oceana and recovered 2 F18`s that midaired and one lost the entire left vertical and outboard wing with aileron, both made it back to the station. flyby wire with 2 computers and 4 channels per really saved the airframes
Long before FBW, but a B52 (can't remember what series, but it was a Tall Tail) lost about 80% of its vertical stabilizer during some low level or turbulence testing and landed safety.

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Old 05-28-2013, 03:05 PM   #12
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This is too funny. I have been showing it to my guys here at the shop.

I guess my mind is wired different. With market prices being what they are per ounce, I have to ponder what Wonder Woman's golden lasso is worth?
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:43 PM   #13
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That the reason the original F-117 was moth balled is the Next Generation Stealth Fighter is even more stealthy.
I know it may be classified, but it would be cool seeing on of those being fueled.
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Roger on the CSA, but the T-38 did and does have a vertical stabilizer.
I was referring to the computerized flight controls.
Admittedly it was not 100% like the newer jets.
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I was referring to the computerized flight controls.
Admittedly it was not 100% like the newer jets.
No problem - I was referring to my amazement of the lack of the VS.
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I have read quite a bit about the F-117 and like the B-2 I am amazed they can fly. I keep looking for the missing vertical stabilizer. I read that the 117 is almost totally dependent on computers to keep it airborne.
The 117 has a vert stabilizer. two, in fact




While it's true it needs a computer to fly, it is only unstable in pitch. Ben Rich wrote a great book called "Skunk Works" that goes into much detail on the development of the 117.
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The 117 has a vert stabilizer. two, in fact




While it's true it needs a computer to fly, it is only unstable in pitch. Ben Rich wrote a great book called "Skunk Works" that goes into much detail on the development of the 117.
Mmmm, remind me over a beer to "ruminate" about this.
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The 117 has a vert stabilizer. two, in fact




While it's true it needs a computer to fly, it is only unstable in pitch. Ben Rich wrote a great book called "Skunk Works" that goes into much detail on the development of the 117.
Yeah it does,but they are IMO so much undersized for the size of the aircraft.
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Mmmm, remind me over a beer to "ruminate" about this.
d21? I thought they only launched them from a b-52?

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d12? I thought they only launched them from a b-52?

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