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Old 05-01-2013, 11:44 AM   #11
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On a serious note for a moment - I once went to one of those quick-change places. They drained the sump, put the plug back in, new filter on, then put 5 quarts of engine oil into the transmission.

Five miles later, the engine threw a rod through the oil pan. The transmission was acting oddly, too. They ended up buying the car and I got another one with the money.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:15 PM   #12
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Always check the oil before leaving the place, it ticks off the oil jockey. but your safe and he has a little mental jab to double check every car, or at least that's what a properly functioning brain would do.
My whole industry is based on the customer double checking your work and as the manufacturer i make darn sure they never have anything to say, other than thanks.

but I do change my own oil and it does cost me the same as the box store but I get to use full syn, good filter, and I view it as therapy and education for my kids.

I skip the beer though, a buddy was so hammered once he left a socket or bolt (not sure which he wouldn't say) in the cylinder when he closed up his engine and after replacing the block, piston, head and valves; if there is drinking while working on cars there is always a designated inspector.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:25 PM   #13
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I made two mistakes on one oil change. First I did not realize the O ring from the old filter was still on the motor when I put the new filter on.

Next, did not test drive because DW had to leave and needed the car.

Apparently two O rings are NOT better than one.

The phone rang 10 minutes after she left. I followed the trail of synthetic two miles to where motor had given up.

Filter $5
Oil $30
Motor $700
Since then Jiffy-Lube...
Yet I do still do my own brakes.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:12 PM   #14
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There is so much truth to this. Perhaps one could add
-forget what overtightening can do
-strip out oil pan drain bolt
-Get oversized self-tapper so that you can get by for a bit
-two more beers because you are fruatrated
-Put self tapper in crooked (beer is getting to you now)
-wind up having to drop and replace the lower half of the oil pan

to the list here.

Or was that just me?
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:23 PM   #15
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I made two mistakes on one oil change. First I did not realize the O ring from the old filter was still on the motor when I put the new filter on.

Next, did not test drive because DW had to leave and needed the car.

Apparently two O rings are NOT better than one.

The phone rang 10 minutes after she left. I followed the trail of synthetic two miles to where motor had given up.

Filter $5
Oil $30
Motor $700
Since then Jiffy-Lube...
Yet I do still do my own brakes.
When I used to change my oil myself, the Fram oil filter box always contained a warning to make certain the removed oil filter "O" ring was not still in the housing before installing the new filter.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:28 PM   #16
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Yep, I remember reading that a long time ago, but after doing them without issue for a dozen years or so I stopped reading the box.

I think I should have just had a beer instead...
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:32 PM   #17
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Yep, I remember reading that a long time ago, but after doing them without issue for a dozen years or so I stopped reading the box.

I think I should have just had a beer instead...
Or maybe you should continue reading the box before having a beer

My personal experience with this is that the "O" ring came out with the filter more often than not.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:58 PM   #18
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Most US cars have the oil seal bonded to the screw-on filter body. My old 1968 UK Ford Cortina had the older-style metal bowl with an element inside. On one oil change, the tech left the old seal inside the housing. 400 miles later the engine was toast.

I pulled it out and rebuilt it, which went quite well. Before finishing up, I realised that the 1600 Pinto was the same basic engine, so I went to my local Ford dealer and bought the Pinto 1600 oil filter mounting and its spin-on cartridge.

No more screw-ups for several years, until the alternator blew itself up just before we were to relocate from Tidewater VA to Seattle. I planned to flat-tow the Cortina behind our Mercury wagon since it couldn't be driven.

All went well until I made a tight turn in a motel parking lot in Bozeman, MT and snapped off the bracket to which the towing system was attached.

We left the car at the airport and drove to Seattle. I flew back a couple of weeks later with a new alternator and installed it. About 100 miles from Bozeman, I started getting odd jerks in the transmission. Eventually, the transmission seized up. DW came and resued me from Moses Lake and we towed the Cortina home. In the first couple of miles, it became obvious that the transmission was in trouble, so I disconnected the drive shaft.

DW wasn't comfortable towing, so when we got to the top of Snoqualmie Pass, she wanted to dump the car. In the end, I got her to push the totally dead Cortina to start it down the pass. I made about 85 mph on the way down and actually passed several other vehicles, despite being totally "dead-stick". We re-attached the tow just east of North Bend and got the Cortina home. I pulled the gearbox and had it re-built.

It turned out that, despite "general knowledge' about stick-shift transmissions being good to be towed without a disconnect, that particular Ford box had its lubrication pump driven by the input shaft. It was a major achivement that it got from VA to MT without seizing up!

If I'd known how much trouble it was going to be, I'd have set fire to the SOB in Virginia!
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:33 AM   #19
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Dallas dodge sells 4 oil changes for 52.00

My hemi holds 8 qts of oil ????
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