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Old 07-25-2015, 08:49 PM   #1
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2016 Stealth Maiden Voyage, major problems!!!

We bought our 2016 Forest River Stealth WA2916 on 6/12/2015 and brought it out Friday for it's maiden voyage. We simply drove it home from the dealer to our storage, then brought it home on Friday 7/24, loaded our gear and went camping. We picked a nice local "resort" style place for the maiden voyage to test everything out. Thank god, this was the idea.

While I'm outside setting up, the wife turned on the sink and I instantly hear tons of water outside under neath. I tell her to stop. After investigation, we determine that its the kitchen sink drain to gray tank not making it there. No idea about the fix (YET!, read ahead to find out more)

We decide not to use the kitchen sink at this point, but of course it HAS been used and there is residual water in the P trap etc, but we didnt turn it on again.

Fast forward 2am Saturday morning (today actually). I get woken up as the slide-out is operating, I wonder WTF?? I go out there and I can smell burning electronics and I quickly notice the slide-out is only operating HALF of it, and it quickly jams, but you can hear it still trying.

I have no idea why. I can't see the motors, and know nothing about the SchwinTek at this point (I do know more now), so I get my head wayyyy under the sink.

1. I see that the flex-pipe for the drain is not even attached!! How the hell can this pass Forest River inspection, let alone Giant RV inspection? The water was simply pouring out on the floor and most made it down the hole in the floor and found its way to the outside ground.

I attached the flex-hose to the PVC fitting, screwed on the clamp and this issue was resolved. I then used a rag to clean up all residual water.

2. I then was wondering why the hell the slide-out did what it did and where the heck is this burning smell coming from?
I see that directly under neath the "P" trap there is slowly dripping water from the fitting. The controller board for both motors is mounted DIRECTLY under it. Each time a drip of water falls, it was going directly in to the board. Why the hell is it mounted on that part of the wall? If it was simply mounted 6" to the left or right, it could never happen!

I check the clamps on the PVC "P" trap fittings and 2 of them had 3/4 of a turn left before they snugged up. W T F? I wiped everything up, tightened all of them and validated that after some time, ZERO water drips. But the damage is done...

I decide I cant do anything at this point as it must be hosed. I try switching off breakers, but nothing seems to kill the slide-out power (none labeled slideout). Even with Battery Disconnect, it is pointless because we are on land-line AC power (we need it as A/C is pumping to keep us cool).

3. In the morning I decide to take the drawers out and look behind there. Low and behold I see MORE dripping from the hot and cold fittings, because we have high pressure water hooked up outside from the RV park, it pressures all that. I wipe it all up and Tighten those fittings and the dripping stops. Once again, how the heck did all this slip by? I also notice one of those square bits from a drill sitting on the ground. Yay, nice job there... Mine now.

I cant tow my trailer home with the slide-out half cocked open. Tomorrow the CoachNet guy is coming at 8am to get this thing closed.
I googled a lot and it seems that I think he's going to have to nicely cut the outside stripping as it has silicone sealed, and then get access to the set screws on both sides, remove them and use a flat head to lift the motors up 1/2" and put the set screws back, then we should be able to push the slide-out back in, put a 2x4 inside ontop to keep it from coming out on the drive home.

I'm real glad I have this CoachNet for 1 year, but I guess I have to pay the guy out of pocket and request FR pay me back, hopefully this goes well.

100% totally an issue of the installer who put this piping in, negligence and then it wasn't inspected closely by the RV Dealer (seller) to ensure all those are good too. Sucks...

Here's the pics.

I would LOVE to hear your feedback on this one. By the way, we already pre-paid a camping trip up in Big Bear Lake which is like $110/night and we have friends going with their TH 2 weeks from now. I doubt I'll get this fixed by then
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Old 07-25-2015, 10:15 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear about your fiasco. It is amazing how things like that can slip by quality control inspections Boy all that wiring and hoses looks like a real clusterf#ck, you would think they could clean that up a little. I have read bad things about Giant's service department. Maybe you could call around for a certified Forest River service shop that you could use instead.

Good luck on getting it fixed...let us know how it turns out.
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:17 AM   #3
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Bummer to hear about. All to familiar tho, my unit had the exact same situation with the flexline being completely detached from the drain line. We ran everything at PDI and had no leaks. I'm guessing the fitting was never tightened and after extending and retracting the slide a few times and bouncing down the road a while it became detached. We encountered ours on our very first trip as well while pulled over to eat lunch...ran the sink for a second, heard the water hitting the ground, then saw the puddle forming from underneath.

Not sure about my slide motor sticking but it had recently began extending and retracting at an angle...

Check that place in Fontana that was mentioned in the other thread about warranty work...I just heard from Giant in Montclair this past Friday...still tracking down my window they're going to replace and waiting to install new speakers and slide parts that had been received. I'm sure it'll be another few weeks till I get mine back...as of today it's been there for seven weeks...

I am obsolutely never going to deal with Giant RV ever again, and highly recommend others to steer clear at all costs.

Oh yea one other thing too, I've only camped at full hookups once so I tend to forget about it and it hardly gets used but I've read on here that everyone recommends a pressure regulator for the city water attachment, not sure if you were running one...
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Old 07-27-2015, 12:53 AM   #4
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I watched videos on youtube and saw how you can manually retract the slide. I didnt have a ladder and while I could have borrowed one from the service place near by, I figured why bother when the CoachNet was free and they were coming at 8am. The dude came and manually retracted it. Not before pushing too hard on the siding and putting 2 dents in it. They are small, but dude, why did he push there and not on the edge where the molding is strong and not just siding? So I'll ask about fixing that, or try on my own with some paintless dent removal knowldge I got.

Going to check tomorrow on getting this thing in ASAP to RV Solutions in SD if I can. Have an appt at Giant RV though for Friday, but want to try to get this fixed before then. It should be fast as I believe the issue is just the module needing to be swapped which is 5 minutes max, then simply fixing the molding (silicone) where he had to remove it to get to the motor, then drop the motors back down in, install the set screws and then good to go. TBD.. i'll post up more too.

Oh, It turns out I did have the pressure regulator, from a previous Keystone RV I had. I didnt know what it was till I looked it up on Amazon and thought "**** I have one of those!" so I'll use that next time just as a precaution to help with all the lines in case too much pressure too (the dripping coming from the shower fittings).
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Old 07-27-2015, 01:42 PM   #5
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I brought home my 2015 Puma 32DBKS and all of the drain fittings underneath the sinks were loose and leaking! Had to tighten up all of them to stop them from leaking. Makes you wonder why they are not taking the 1 second more to tighten up the connections?
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Don't know about your dealer, but ours charged A LOT for prep and PDI. I'd strongly request a refund for obvious lack of service / breach - they didn't do what they charged you for. Good luck...
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Our WA2916 maiden voyage was this weekend as well and would you looky there... SAME IDENTICAL ISSUE for us too! Luckily no water got on our slide circuit board but water was just pouring out of our sink into the slide. Found that gray hose disconnected, put it back, gave it a good what for and tightened all the other connections that were loose. I was highly pissed off that water had just poured into my 40k toy hauler!! Other then that one issue it was a good trip but sheesh!!!

EDIT: Oh and yeah our shower leaked a bit too where the glass connects to those cheap rubber fittings that sandwich the glass in. We're going to give it a good clear caulking makeover.
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Old 07-27-2015, 03:49 PM   #8
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I have been trying to call Forest River all morning, their number doesn't work. Seriously, how the hell can that be? I called FR out in Idaho or something (not for the toy haulers) and they said thats the only # they have for FR too. What sucks is I prepaid for a camping trip $220 August 7th-9th. I think unless FR helps me out, it may make more sense to just wait to bring the coach in, and manually push the slide in/out that weekend. This sucks.
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Yeah unfortunatley I think you're going to be hard pressed for an issue to be resolved that fast. Trust me I'm in your corner though. I seriously can't believe we both had the same identical MAJOR issue in the same weekend. Our dealer did show us a trick on getting the slide in and out though but you have to remove the screws down both sides of the slide and then release a pin or something and then it can be move din and out. Hopefully I never have to deal with that. Cheering for you AMG!
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Yeah unfortunatley I think you're going to be hard pressed for an issue to be resolved that fast. Trust me I'm in your corner though. I seriously can't believe we both had the same identical MAJOR issue in the same weekend. Our dealer did show us a trick on getting the slide in and out though but you have to remove the screws down both sides of the slide and then release a pin or something and then it can be move din and out. Hopefully I never have to deal with that. Cheering for you AMG!
I removed the two set screws on either side and lifted the motors up. My slide will slide in and our manually now if you push. I have a 2x4 inside holding it so that when you drive it cannot slide out in a turn. I think i COULD actually go camping with it like this and just manually push it out flush and do my thing.

What sucks, is If I had no warranty, I could buy a new one of these:
Schwintek 13398 C2 Dual Motor Synchronous Velocity Slide Out Controller | eBay

Have it here in no time, and then the slide-out would be good to go. Instead, I have to wait weeks for it to be seen at a service center, then FR to approve, more time to ship items, then more time for them to install a part that I could put in, in 10 minutes or less! Oh... Yeah... and I would MOVE it away from being right under the sink! (the cables are coiled up with like 3-4 feet extra just looped there and zip tied).

At least I am getting all this figured out before we are out in the middle of the desert and **** happens. Next weekend is just another RV resort, kick back in Big Bear with some friends and family in their toy hauler too.
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