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Old 05-23-2015, 07:08 AM   #11
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Hmm, now I'll have to do some checking. My 2014 V 39R12 has three 7K axles and a max gross of 20370. When fully loaded, the 5er is 19450#. I have never looked at the pin box specs. Unfortunately the Vengenance is at the dealership right now. I'm having total hip replacement surgery on the 26th, so it's gonna have to wait.
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Old 05-23-2015, 09:10 AM   #12
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The plan it would seem is for the pin weight to be 3370 and the max weight on the three axles to be 18K, which is how the spec sheet and original label read. In my case, the pin box was the only limiting factor.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:58 AM   #13
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In my humble opinion, you have the ideal situation, more than enough axle capacity, as long as you have a 21K or greater pin box. I would just look at the sticker on the nose of your pin box to see if it is anything less than 21K.
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Old 05-23-2015, 03:44 PM   #14
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Hmm, now I'll have to do some checking. My 2014 V 39R12 has three 7K axles and a max gross of 20370. When fully loaded, the 5er is 19450#. I have never looked at the pin box specs. Unfortunately the Vengenance is at the dealership right now. I'm having total hip replacement surgery on the 26th, so it's gonna have to wait.
You should be fine, I don't think the trail-air pinbox was an available option until 2015 so as long as you don't have it you should be good to go.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:19 AM   #15
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I have a 2015 Vengeance 39b12 touring edition. The sticker on the side the 21k GVWR. My sticker on the LCI pin box also reads 18k GVWR max. So what gives?
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:22 AM   #16
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I have a 2015 Vengeance 39b12 touring edition. The sticker on the side the 21k GVWR. My sticker on the LCI pin box also reads 18k GVWR max. So what gives?
Nick,

You have the same issue I have on my 38L12. FR is currently addressing my issue through their warranty department.

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Old 05-29-2015, 03:54 PM   #17
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Hope your hip replacement goes well..... best wishes for speedy recovery.
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Old 05-31-2015, 09:26 AM   #18
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Who did you get in contact with regarding that pin box?
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Old 05-31-2015, 07:30 PM   #19
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Who did you get in contact with regarding that pin box?
I contacted Calvin Folk. He is the point of contact for warranty issues on the Vengeance, and he has helped us work through several concerns with our unit.
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Old 07-11-2015, 08:57 AM   #20
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I contacted Calvin Folk. He is the point of contact for warranty issues on the Vengeance, and he has helped us work through several concerns with our unit.
I just spoke with calvin last week. He argued with me that my 2015 39b12 has the correct pin box. Its almost like he did not understand what I was explaining. He claimed that every unit built came with THAT hitch, all of them. I think that's false advertisement if the pin box is obviously rated to 18k lbs GVWR max, and the trailer is almost 21k. Did he correct your problem because he kept giving me the run around and I was growing impatient? I seem to have a soft spot in the ramp door and I am not impressed with the warranty department this far.
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