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Old 07-29-2015, 08:47 PM   #31
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I'll ask about this again today when I pick mine up from the dealer. But when I asked prior to purchasing, I was told that the pin box and axles were rated at 18k. And that the GVWR was 20k and change. It was explained to me that the pin weight is subtracted. But now that you guys have brought it up. I will ask again for an explanation.


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Old 08-11-2015, 11:14 AM   #33
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I'll ask about this again today when I pick mine up from the dealer. But when I asked prior to purchasing, I was told that the pin box and axles were rated at 18k. And that the GVWR was 20k and change. It was explained to me that the pin weight is subtracted. But now that you guys have brought it up. I will ask again for an explanation.
This is accurate for the axles, but inaccurate for the pin box.

The axles carry the GVWR minus pin weight. The axles are often less than the camper's GVWR; in fact- most times, GVWR is calculated by adding the axle weight plus the pin weight.

But, the pin box has to carry the full GVWR. Anything less isn't appropriate and a new, higher capacity, pin box should be put on.
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I'll agree with that. My three axles are rated 7,000 lb each, 21,000, as is the stated GVW. What I don't know is my actual pin weight when I'm fully loaded. The only weight I got on the CAT scale was 19,300 with the camper only on the scale. (Camper attached to truck) I'll certainly have to do the CAT scaling over again, with the re-weigh as outlined in another post.
The dealer can't take my camper in until the 18th, but in my phone conversation with the service manager, he stated that the pin box rating should be "at least 20,000."
Throwing more crap in the game, is the fact that my pin box was "damaged" when they moved it to the pad for my walk-thru in April of last year, which delayed my walk-thru and pick-up by a day.
I'll just have to wait until I take it down there next week to see what they are going to do or say about it.
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This is accurate for the axles, but inaccurate for the pin box.

The axles carry the GVWR minus pin weight. The axles are often less than the camper's GVWR; in fact- most times, GVWR is calculated by adding the axle weight plus the pin weight.

But, the pin box has to carry the full GVWR. Anything less isn't appropriate and a new, higher capacity, pin box should be put on.

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My GVW is 14500 lbs

My trailer axles are rated at 12,000 lbs (6,000 each 8 lug) the pin weight varies but is around 3,000 lbs so my set up is correct.

Not sure the exact rating of my pin box the trailer is not here.

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Speaking with the dealer again when I picked up my 5'er. They again told me that the GVWR has the pin weight subtracted. Also told me that the 18k king pin was good to go. I plan on sending an email to the factory to confirm. I do feel that if the GVWR rating is just under 21k. Than my king pin should be rated for that.


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Speaking with the dealer again when I picked up my 5'er. They again told me that the GVWR has the pin weight subtracted. Also told me that the 18k king pin was good to go. I plan on sending an email to the factory to confirm. I do feel that if the GVWR rating is just under 21k. Than my king pin should be rated for that.


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That's interesting as with ours the king pin weight is part of the Gross weight

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Speaking with the dealer again when I picked up my 5'er. They again told me that the GVWR has the pin weight subtracted. Also told me that the 18k king pin was good to go. I plan on sending an email to the factory to confirm. I do feel that if the GVWR rating is just under 21k. Than my king pin should be rated for that.


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Oaklevel is kinder than I am- your dealer is full of bullsh...crap. I've NEVER heard that the pin weight is separate. If you want to know your camper's weight, you weigh the axles and add the pin weight.
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Oaklevel is kinder than I am- your dealer is full of bullsh...crap. I've NEVER heard that the pin weight is separate. If you want to know your camper's weight, you weigh the axles and add the pin weight.
Right, Nothing to do with the dealer.... Maybe I am being confusing?? The gross weight by sticker of our trailer is 14,500 lbs actual weight currently is 13,500 lbs. It has two 6,000 lb 8 lug axles. There is no good way to figure our pin weight as it varies. But I'm good.


Oh I think you mean riznfall ' s dealer..... ( I agree ) .....but dealers always tell the truth........

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Right, Nothing to do with the dealer.... Maybe I am being confusing?? The gross weight by sticker of our trailer is 14,500 lbs actual weight currently is 13,500 lbs. It has two 6,000 lb 8 lug axles. There is no good way to figure our pin weight as it varies. But I'm good.


Oh I think you mean riznfall ' s dealer..... ( I agree ) .....but dealers always tell the truth........


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