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06-19-2014, 01:46 PM
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Patio kit
Has anyone recently purchased a patio kit to turn ramp into a patio. I have a new stealth and am interested in what's out there.
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06-23-2014, 09:46 AM
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Standard toy hauler doors are not strong enough to handle the extra weight. The company that makes the "play-pen" rig for toy haulers, will not sell "kits." There is another fairly recent thread on this subject here, just can't remember the link.
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06-23-2014, 09:52 AM
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Search "VIP PARTY DECK"
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07-10-2014, 09:43 PM
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Are you talking about an extended a room. We purchased one at camping world. The first time we installed it was very difficult. We have our's folded up in place in side. Because breaking it down each time is a bear. We have a kit it comes with leveling stands. This is great for keeping our dogs in. And still they can look out.
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08-25-2014, 08:20 PM
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I was wondering the same before I ordered my 3062v... It comes with it... But before that I did find the party deck..if I remember right it was going to cost me $2300 and change....I just googled and searched till I finally found it...
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08-25-2014, 09:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultraboy
Standard toy hauler doors are not strong enough to handle the extra weight. The company that makes the "play-pen" rig for toy haulers, will not sell "kits."
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Youre telling me that a door that can support a 1000# Rzr or some other side-by-side during loading and unloading will be unable to support the weight of a few people standing on it? I find that hard to believe...
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08-25-2014, 09:49 PM
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X2 on that. My sxs weighs about 1800# loaded.
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08-26-2014, 09:50 PM
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I contacted my dealer and they in turn contacted the factory rep and they said they would not recommend it and if anything was done to the door it would void the warranty. So I guess no rear patio.
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08-26-2014, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tb83
I contacted my dealer and they in turn contacted the factory rep and they said they would not recommend it and if anything was done to the door it would void the warranty. So I guess no rear patio.
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So I guess I'm just wondering--what would you have to "do" to the door? I can see building some sort of support for the corners--maybe out of 2X4s, or old jackstands, etc...something that's padded that the bumpstops (that normally hit the ground when the door is down) would rest on. I don't see you needing to do anything to the door, unless you're going "Raptor Style" and putting the fold-out railings on the door, which seem to be totally unnecessary. I would think something to support the door (from the spots where it normally rests on the ground) and voila! Patio.
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08-26-2014, 10:56 PM
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This is what people do which works well if the door is hanging over uneven ground. This they say would void the warranty wether it's homemade or store bought.
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08-27-2014, 07:08 AM
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I can see how that would void the warranty. I don't think I would want to use cables to support the weight of the patio--it's taking all the weight and putting it on the frame of the camper box...why would you do that, when you could easily transfer all that weight right to the ground with supports under the door? (other than the fact that it's probably more convenient than deploying some sort of ground-based support under the door corners.)
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08-27-2014, 07:18 AM
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So what is the problem? Are the cables not designed to hold the door up? Is the ramp only designed to lay on the ground? In which case why even have a cable. All you need is the hinge.
Sure looks like an awesome use for the ramp.
Vin.
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08-31-2014, 08:39 AM
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Mine came with the patio feature. It only uses two cables. I would think the issue with a rig that didn't come with it would be the framing of the camper. I would think the door itself would hold the weight. If your rig didn't come with it. The frame might not hold the weight and cause damage over a period of time to the camper itself.
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06-01-2016, 01:35 PM
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I would think that the patio kit might be model specific. I just purchased a new 2016 model 2916 and the owners manual contains information about the patio kit hanging from cables and also the aluminum railing. The manual shows photo's of the cables and railing installed and says that they can be left in place and folded out of the way for travel, it also states that this setup will support up to 1500 lbs. So as long as your model supports this option I don't see how adding it would void your warranty.
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10-24-2016, 12:41 PM
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I'm having a cable kit installed on my TH this next week. I've been using a couple of folding sawhorses thus far. I agree, if the door can support my OHV, then a couple of people and dogs should be no problem. I promise, I won't be throwing any parties out there.
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10-24-2016, 03:46 PM
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11/2 in. Square tubing, 13 in. on center.
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10-26-2016, 02:23 AM
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Interesting thread. First of all My "16" Vengeance 29V came with the Ramp Door Patio System. It uses the side cables for support. The upper cable attachments are welded to the RV's structure and the door (ramp) cable attachments I be leave are bolted on. I would think that the ramp and RV structure for any given model would all be the same, In other words if there are cable attachment points in the upper corners of the RV structure you should be good to go with adding ramp cables.
Another twist
The ramp door may be another issue, the ramp I have is a Lippert component and there may be different models installed on similar Toy Haulers. There was a recent thread about the loading of heavy "Hogs" leaving tire depressions in the ramp. Faulty construction...who knows.
So far ours has been great and has supported a number of cocktail parties.
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10-26-2016, 08:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajun Style
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What happen to your ramp that you had the skin off.
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