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Old 08-01-2018, 12:20 PM   #1
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Change Coming in Dump Configuration???

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I am camped in a brand new, small RV park in central Missouri. The individual dump ststions for each site are at the very rear of the site -- requiring me to use every inch of slinky I have to get from my dump outlet, which is located in front of the axles on my 36 foot unit, to the actual sewer fitting in the ground.


Upon being asked about this sort of inconvenient location for dumping, the owner told me that he built the campground this way in anticipation of an industry wide change that is coming. He said that starting next year, all RVs will be built with the dump outlet on the rear left of the rig, and that no rigs will be built with the dump outlets anywhere else.


This seems strange to me. Has anyone else heard authoritatively that this change is coming?


Color me curious....


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Probably just the owner finding it easier to run single trunk with many outlets than individual branches for each site. I've been in a few places like this and on dump day (Sundays for the weekend warriors like us) it can get pretty stinky with everyone dumping into the same line like that.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:48 PM   #3
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Hi Kaadk,

My thought exactly, as I looked at the layout he chose.

And don't you love it when the dump hole is right next to the fresh water outlet and power station -- with no concrete apron or any other way to contain the inevitable drippage/spillage as it drizzes into the grass?

Regardless, I wanted to see if anyone had heard there was indeed a change coming.

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I carry 40ft. of sewer hose...

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Old 08-01-2018, 01:06 PM   #5
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Upon being asked about this sort of inconvenient location for dumping, the owner told me that he built the campground this way in anticipation of an industry wide change that is coming. He said that starting next year, all RVs will be built with the dump outlet on the rear left of the rig, and that no rigs will be built with the dump outlets anywhere else.


This seems strange to me. Has anyone else heard authoritatively that this change is coming?
I can't see this happening ever. There is literally nothing standard across all RVs in the industry as far as where they put things.
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I cant imagine that, unless there is some new and ridiculous government regulation coming. That would require the bathroom to be at the rear (unless there is some more elaborate plumbing). Ours is, and we love our floor plan. But the huge variety in floor plans is a hallmark of the industry.
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I have also heard from a reliable source that beginning next season the sun will begin to rise in the west and set in the east. I'm guessing that's more likely than RV manufacturers standardizing anything.
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I can't see this happening ever. There is literally nothing standard across all RVs in the industry as far as where they put things.

Gotta agree with that. An RV manufacturer with standards? Reminds me of about a million lawyer jokes where I could substitute "rv manufacturer" for lawyer. Next thing you will be telling me is that they are considering a 3 year bumper to bumper warranty on a $50,000 rv.
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Doubt it. Sounds like he made up the answer because he's tired of the question. I've seen a number of parks with that setup. Probably has more to do with ease of construction than RV convenience. Like others, I carry another section of hose.
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That would be a wonderful standard if actually adopted. When it comes to RV utilities, there actually should be some standardization in the industry and in the field. A “free-for-all” makes little sense when every connection in the field is a crap shoot at best. And please don’t steal my sewer connection because you don’t carry 40 feet or more of sewer hose in your land yacht.
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That would be a wonderful standard if actually adopted. When it comes to RV utilities, there actually should be some standardization in the industry and in the field. A “free-for-all” makes little sense when every connection in the field is a crap shoot at best. And please don’t steal my sewer connection because you don’t carry 40 feet or more of sewer hose in your land yacht.
Chances are you'll never find a sewer, water or electrical any further than 40 feet from the RV.

It is our job to carry enough backup to cover different circumstances.

If you find yourself short, there is nobody else to blame.

My first TT had the electrical plug come out of the front off-door side of the trailer...my last two it came out of the very back wall.

Which means that if I were still using that old Coachman I'd need at least 26 more feet of electrical cord to reach where I can now.

I now have the 25-ft 30 amp cord that came with my 5'ver, plus a 30-ft 30 amp extension cord to CMA...have needed it three times in the last three years (two of those times in the last three months)!
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I have also heard from a reliable source that beginning next season the sun will begin to rise in the west and set in the east. I'm guessing that's more likely than RV manufacturers standardizing anything.

Hitch goes on the front. Door on the curb side. Wheels underneath.

Yep, that's about as much standardization your gonna find in the RV world.
(and the door thing is getting questionable. I have seen units with a second door on the street side.)

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another 'I 'heard' that on the internet'....sorry, but this would be way off...there is no 'authority' that requires manufactures to do ANYTHING...
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Chances are you'll never find a sewer, water or electrical any further than 40 feet from the RV.
"B" loop, Hwy K campground, Annapolis Missouri, sites B8-B12... You better bring about 60+ feet of extension cord. Right by the Black River, they moved the pedestals way up the hill to keep them out of flood waters.

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Well, it does appear that main access doors are on the passenger side and all connections to power, water and sewage are on the driver's side. I have had many sites with the sewer connection at the rear of the unit but I think it only simplifies park layout and allows sites to be built without a separate 4 inch pipe going down the side of each and every unit.
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That is coming soon, or when pigs fly........................ Wait it has got to be true it was on the internet...........

Wait he is telling you the 1980s news both of our early campers the 1973 and 1988 campers had the waste dumps at the rear on the side....



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Chances are you'll never find a sewer, water or electrical any further than 40 feet from the RV.

It is our job to carry enough backup to cover different circumstances.

If you find yourself short, there is nobody else to blame.

My first TT had the electrical plug come out of the front off-door side of the trailer...my last two it came out of the very back wall.

Which means that if I were still using that old Coachman I'd need at least 26 more feet of electrical cord to reach where I can now.

I now have the 25-ft 30 amp cord that came with my 5'ver, plus a 30-ft 30 amp extension cord to CMA...have needed it three times in the last three years (two of those times in the last three months)!
I've been in a few State/Provincial parks where I've needed my full 50' extension cord to 'just' reach the power pedestal. But those typically don't have water/sewer to worry about, just power. In RV parks, I often find the utilities 'too' close, and sometimes have to reposition my rig so the slides can all open.
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Only one place that we go has the sewer at the rear and we need an extra length of hose. Most of them are in the rear third of the space.
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Hitch goes on the front. Door on the curb side. Wheels underneath.

Yep, that's about as much standardization your gonna find in the RV world.
(and the door thing is getting questionable. I have seen units with a second door on the street side.)

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Dump connection in the rear would be great. Don't bother stopping at the dump station just pull into a fast food with steep drive apron.
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