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Old 03-11-2014, 07:43 PM   #21
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I forgot about them. I guess I'll see if I can buy some stuff online before my Goodsams expires- that is unless ebay is cheaper!

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eBay is probably cheaper, but it was nice to walk into a brick and motor and buy all the stuff for the initial stocking of a new TT.
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:56 PM   #22
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I'm the same way on stuff sometimes. There is a dealer on my way home from work I stop at sometimes. Unfortunately Camping world is about 50 miles out of my way, and dw didn't like the manager & sales staff there when we looked at a Seirra.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:36 AM   #23
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I agree that CW you pay a little more then ebay, but they have never argued with me about when I bought it or anything. They gave me a new product no questions asked. For me paying a few bucks extra is worth it. You can stop at any CW anywhere and take care of your problem. Now I wouldn't ever have them service my unit, they charge double of what a dealer would. But there products are in stock, and if you use your GS card you get a discount which makes it work for me. If I'm looking for some simple cheap thing then I will use Amazon free shipping in 2 days for $79.00 bucks got that back and then some. I used to have Passport America, never again. The parks we went to where dumps and they always have black out dates. Just my opinion which means nothing.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:45 AM   #24
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eBay is probably cheaper, but it was nice to walk into a brick and motor and buy all the stuff for the initial stocking of a new TT.
I renew my GS membership whenever I need to make a major purchase at CW. That pays the renewal fee. And last time CW sent me a $10 and a $25 coupon for renewing.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:40 PM   #25
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And honestly, probably fewer people see a need to join one of these programs . Besides the spam and junk mail from anything you sign up for these days. The cost may outway the benefits.
We bought in and learned a lot. If you are full timer it's a bargain and half and then some.
Live in your RV and camp every night - for $459 a year. All in "resorts" as they call themselves..not sure i'd apply that title but they are better than most CGs we've stayed in.

so $50 or $60 a night times 365...$18,000 a year? No comparison.

From the CG side...don't know. I think our CG has has 1200 members, at $300/year each guaranteed, plus more from cabin rentals and some $10/night programs.
They also offer seasonal sites to members for $1500...look like a good 40 took them up on that.
And to buy in is $5-10k...figure 7k avg and 1200 members...that can make for a nice nest egg.
I"m sure there's a member fee for ROD/AOR and such.

Marketing is minimal - you have members that pay - it's in the contract they HAVE to pay. so guaranteed income.

If you do some RV shows and incentives to members to sell new memberships and call sell, what 30 a year? 50? 100? More? At 7k a pop...
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:08 PM   #26
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Pymatuning joined Travel Resorts of America. We drank the kool aid and joined this network. 10.00 a night for multiple campgrounds per state includng one out on the outer banks that's become one of our favorites. Folks can buy a spot per night for 100.00 but for me 10.00 a night is much nicer especially when I go 5 times a year.

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The aw shucks part of these memberships is that in the fine print you are in essence signing a time share contract with a ninety year expiration date and an open ended ability to jack maintenance costs on a yearly basis. Also in the fine print, is that this contract can only be sold once and thereafter the buyer is stuck and cannot sell. I don't know about giving it away but if I was going to drop 7K on something I wouldn't sign that contract with that kind of verbage in it. I "upgraded" the terms to an open ended membership with no expiration or limitations on the number of times it can be sold but there is still a maintenance fee just like a time share so unless you're like us, planning to full time in the future or are already full timers and willing to prepay those fees in advance then it can be a deal. However, IMO it's a bum deal for an occassional camper. Thankfully, folks can also pay that nightly rate referenced earlier and still go to those campsites.
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:30 PM   #27
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Live and learn...and don't be 'sold' LOL
For full timers I think it's pretty sweet deal...for us casual campers..not so much. BUT since it's all prepaid we can camp and not think about 'well, we need $400 for camping this week'.
Public CGs near our resort are $80-100 a night, often a requiring a 2 weekend night stay, plus you pay for every amenity (like mini golf, etc). With kids that adds up.

Our cost for 10 years of our contract, mtce, one assessment so far, annual fee for ROD/AOR./ACN works out to about 10k.
If we camp 14 days a year on avg..that's $71 a night.

More than a state park..but you get more too.
And we can camp a lot more.

And a dedicated seasonal spot around here is $1500-2k, around our resort more like $3k - plus at some you have to maintain your site (cut grass, etc).

We might be able to camp more this year now that my wife changed jobs. Our resort lets us leave our TT there for free (so we were told) or a minimal fee (less than the turnpike fees for a round trip plus the extra gas spent towing).

They are in breach of the contract...if I pushed the issue we'd maybe get something back from it...not sure the legal costs would be worth it though. It says nobody gets 'assigned' sites and 2 years ago they added the option to get a seasonal (same) spot all season...for $1500-2k on TOP of the membership buy in.

for $3k we can convert at any time to a lifetime...and get rights to sell or will our membership. BUT as we found out you also agree to the maintenance fee for life too! there is no option to 'sell back' or give up your membership!

Don't pay and they'll turn you into the credit bureaus and you lose all your benefits, membership in the rod/aor/acn network, etc. A lot like blackmail IMO.

And I don't know...when you die if you kids inherit what you own they then get saddles with a $300 annual maintenace fee...cheap for unlimited camping if they camp of course.
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Pymatuning joined Travel Resorts of America. We drank the kool aid and joined this network. 10.00 a night for multiple campgrounds per state includng one out on the outer banks that's become one of our favorites. Folks can buy a spot per night for 100.00 but for me 10.00 a night is much nicer especially when I go 5 times a year.

Travel Resorts of America, Pymatuning Adventure Resort

The aw shucks part of these memberships is that in the fine print you are in essence signing a time share contract with a ninety year expiration date and an open ended ability to jack maintenance costs on a yearly basis. Also in the fine print, is that this contract can only be sold once and thereafter the buyer is stuck and cannot sell. I don't know about giving it away but if I was going to drop 7K on something I wouldn't sign that contract with that kind of verbage in it. I "upgraded" the terms to an open ended membership with no expiration or limitations on the number of times it can be sold but there is still a maintenance fee just like a time share so unless you're like us, planning to full time in the future or are already full timers and willing to prepay those fees in advance then it can be a deal. However, IMO it's a bum deal for an occassional camper. Thankfully, folks can also pay that nightly rate referenced earlier and still go to those campsites.

We joined Travel Resorts in 2008 when they only had 2 properties (Gettysburg Battlefield Resort & Sycamore Lodge Resort). Our contract is open ended to a point. We can sell it or it is willable for 4 generations. However, we are restricted to just the 2 original resorts and 60 day advance reservations. I have heard that some of the older contracts (1990's) sold had no restrictive language and included "all future properties". We had the opportunity to "upgrade" to all owned resorts and 90 day advance reservations but, hoping to be fulltimers soon, we declined. However, that being said, we certainly have taken advantage of our membership and have used Battlefield Resort extensively for the past 5 years. If you're fortunate to live close enough for extended stays then it is worth it in the long run. For example, we use our membership for stays of 12 - 14 days at a time 4 or 5 times a season. At say, $50 a night for those extended stays over that past 5 years, the cost would be around $18,750. So, in my case, I've saved more than twice our initial investment.

Another perk is being part of Coast to Coast which allows is to stay at reciprocal resorts for the equivalent of $10-$15 per/nite. We've used that extensively also for our annual trips to Myrtle Beach. At $145 annual membership plus our 11 day stay =$255. Compared to our first trip to Myrtle Beach at Apache, that stay cost us $455. So, for us, its' been worth it and worked out for us.
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:19 PM   #29
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Man...I need to open one of these kind of cg's! Sounds like a no loose business from the cg's side.

Then maybe I can retire and camp all the time and vacation at my house!

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We had the opportunity to "upgrade" to all owned resorts and 90 day advance reservations but, hoping to be fulltimers soon, we declined.
That would be the one we opted for and we're based out of Sycamore Lodge. The CG is 90 minutes from our door so yeah it works out well for us. There's also a state CG called Jordan Lake that we really like too. The sites are well spaced and tree covered. 25.00 a night for the feeling of being with nature is awesome. While I would like to say the Sycamore is the best thing since sliced bread as far as CGs go IMO Jordan beats the pants off of it. The only amenities are running water and a power hookup. Oh and a communal bathroom if you don't mind the skeeters But for a fisherman like me it's pure heaven. Now the kiddos, they prefer the mini golf, pool, golf carts, hoops, music and movies at Sycamore so you can guess where we spend more time
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