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Old 07-03-2016, 09:42 AM   #11
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I don't think it's a bad thing. Look back at automotive history and how many American auto manufacturers there were. Now we have two, Ford and GM, and they are good products.
It may not be lol. Carnegie, Frick,Rockefeller,Vanderbilt,JP Morgan,Liegl,Martin Lol
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:21 AM   #12
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Maybe we need the Japanese and the Koreans to join the RV market to see improvements in American products
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:30 AM   #13
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While consolidation in the manufactures is of concern, the consolidation/monopolization in dealerships is probably a bigger issue. For many it is OK that the industry builds them on the cheap, but when there is no competition in the dealership space, we will all be paying much more for the same arguably poor quality.
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They all build brands with a range in quality of parts and workmanship. The difference will be in their customer support after sales. RV dealers are independent and often give poor customer service at very high prices, so refusing to deal directly with consumers for parts would not be a good thing for consumers unless they get better control of the dealer network.
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:38 AM   #15
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I don't think it's a bad thing. Look back at automotive history and how many American auto manufacturers there were. Now we have two, Ford and GM, and they are good products.

And since you mentioned it, I will not dispute the good product claims but have you bought one recently and noticed the price? Have you bought any parts lately that are only had at the dealer. Try a plastic headlight assembly for a 2015 to the tune of $872. I find it hard to believe that one headlight costs 2% of the total cost of the vehicle but since the only place that has it is the manufacturer you pay the price.....or do without.

Competition is a good thing. To these RV companies its a bad thing. How do you get around it? You buy up the competition but keep the names and brands. That way the average dummy thinks there is competition, while you produce the same cruddy products across the board and the only thing you make different is decals .
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They all build brands with a range in quality of parts and workmanship.

Do you actually believe that? From what I have seen the top of the line class A is put together no better or with any better materials or components than my 20K Rockwood.
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Maybe we need the Japanese and the Koreans to join the RV market to see improvements in American products
The possibility of this happening, is slim to none.
Only super small and lightweight RVS would be worth importing across the Pacific.
How many European RVs do you see for sale here?
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Do you actually believe that? From what I have seen the top of the line class A is put together no better or with any better materials or components than my 20K Rockwood.
Yes, I do. Do you really believe that a "top of the line Class A" is not built with better quality (parts and workmanship) than your $20K Rockwood? I seriously doubt that anyone would buy a $200K+ MH with the same quality expectations as our Rockwoods.
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Yes, I do. Do you really believe that a "top of the line Class A" is not built with better quality (parts and workmanship) than your $20K Rockwood? I seriously doubt that anyone would buy a $200K+ MH with the same quality expectations as our Rockwoods.
Not only do I believe it. I have seen it and repaired it. Fiberboard, mdf, stripped and undersized fasteners, sloppy electrical connections, cheap components in general. The better quality stops at the line between chassis and house. You may have some nice marble tile, or some better fabrics, but the construction in general leaves a lot to be desired. Hundreds if not thousands of posts on this very forum about build quality issues on them confirms it. Looks are one thing, what is behind the looks is another story altogether.
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The possibility of this happening, is slim to none.
Only super small and lightweight RVS would be worth importing across the Pacific.
How many European RVs do you see for sale here?
Perhaps they learned from the late 60s when the foreign care were assembled overseas. Now some components are made abroad and some are made here, with final assembly, here. Containers packed with components arrive at ports daily and are shipped by rail and truck to Toyota, Nissan, etc... and my son's new Toyota pickup was assembled, and mostly built, in San Antonio. I don't think of this as a stretch... I'm surprised it's not happening already...
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