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Old 04-13-2015, 06:06 PM   #61
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I have to add that I agree with 99.9% of what has been said here.

Now my biggest peeve is the darn RVIA sticker on every RV announcing to the world that it was manufactured to meet all electric, plumbing, heating and fire safety standards!
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:24 PM   #62
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I certainly agree that an Airstream is going to be of better quality than a Rockwood. However, their quality and price multipliers are not the same. In other words, the Airstream isn't 3.5 times as good as the Rockwood. Another thing... My trailer has one narrow slide. I can't imagine having to use it without at least that narrow slide. As good as Airstream is, I wonder why they haven't worked out a trouble-free slide mechanism. I read more about slide problems than about any other problem, except possibly leaks.
I agree. I would think leaks are the worst because that can ruin your camper.
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:24 PM   #63
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I have to add that I agree with 99.9% of what has been said here.

Now my biggest peeve is the darn RVIA sticker on every RV announcing to the world that it was manufactured to meet all electric, plumbing, heating and fire safety standards!
That sticker does NOT mean it was manufactured to meet ANY standards,what it DOES mean is that the manufacturer has either trained or sent its employees how to build a unit to "code" or proper standards. At no time does anyone from RVIA ever inspect any work done at the plant.The manufacturer BUYS the stickers from RVIA and simply says they will build to standards.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:25 AM   #64
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Amen! In my opinion, as long as there are enough first time purchasers as there are now, nothing will change but aesthetic properties and colors of wall coverings and fabrics.

Unfortunately, a new buyer doesn't spend enough time in a model before he buys it to see poor quality.(And you'd need to live in it a while anyway.) It almost, unfortunately, takes buying one, travelling and living in it for a period of time to discover poor quality and to know that next time you won't settle for that particular item!

Also, in my opinion RV/TT salespersons are worse than car salespersons. Our salesman told us whatever we wanted to hear and then later didn't recall ever discussing that with us.

Ever see an RV or TT after a tornado or horrendous traffic accident? If so, I doubt you'd ever buy another one. My wife and I are full timers in a 2014 Puma. We are miles away from a dealer, so most things I fix myself. (Retired home remodeler). In a half year I've spent several hundred dollars. We are building a cabin on our land. When it is finished I will sell the Puma.

We, at one time, were going to buy a Park or Destination model to live in. I've inspected several of those and talked with the owners. They are only marginally better built than what we have. It is very unfortunate.

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I agree about the poor quality of RV's and Trailers. Also the sales people are for sure the worst ever...
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:27 AM   #65
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That sticker does NOT mean it was manufactured to meet ANY standards,what it DOES mean is that the manufacturer has either trained or sent its employees how to build a unit to "code" or proper standards. At no time does anyone from RVIA ever inspect any work done at the plant.The manufacturer BUYS the stickers from RVIA and simply says they will build to standards.

You guys got me wondering, so I did a web search and here is what "Go RVing" says about it RVIA Seal | Go RVing



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Old 04-15-2015, 06:55 AM   #66
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The RVIA states: "Manufacturers are subject to periodic, unannounced plant inspections by RVIA representatives to audit their compliance. Members who fail to maintain an acceptable level of compliance can be expelled from the Association, which prohibits them from displaying the RVIA seal on their products."

I have never seen an RV that is missing the "seal", so that must mean that US RV manufacturers have been meeting all the RVIA requirements.

Oh, and by the way, I am selling the Sunshine Skyway Bridge over Tampa Bay cheap, just call me!
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:28 AM   #67
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. There are over 69,000 members on here and i think this will be post 48 or so in this thread.
There are going to be issues with any trailer of any manufacturer, and if you give me a few minutes, i will find an issue with any new car too. Nothings perfect in this world!
Dont sweat it and have fun camping!!!
There are WAY less issues with new cars, any brand (except maybe a Yugo) then there are with a new RV trailer. I think it's due to no inspection process from a governing agency.
Here you have family's sleeping inside while camping and propane, electrical all within inches of each other. Also there is plumbing that can leak after traveling vibrations.
If the finish product, that is visible, looks like it was installed without care. Then what about the stuff you can't see in the walls and below carbonates.
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I would agree that the quality of RVs in general could be better. But I suspect that we're somewhat at fault by buying mainly products that seem not to meet our standards. I remember some brands rumored to be of better quality going by the wayside, maybe because we opted to purchase a lessor quality unit at a lessor cost. We just bought a unit that I might have liked to have some features it does not have. But units are available that do that we decided were more than we wanted to spend, and some of those units might require an upgrade in a tow vehicle that would add substantially to the cost.
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I would agree that the quality of RVs in general could be better. But I suspect that we're somewhat at fault by buying mainly products that seem not to meet our standards. I remember some brands rumored to be of better quality going by the wayside, maybe because we opted to purchase a lessor quality unit at a lessor cost. We just bought a unit that I might have liked to have some features it does not have. But units are available that do that we decided were more than we wanted to spend, and some of those units might require an upgrade in a tow vehicle that would add substantially to the cost.
You make good points. We are always attracted to the glamor of a new unit with more knobs , buttons and whistles. Like they say "ginger Bread" sells.
I just think that a manufacture should not instal something that doesn't work properly until it's proven. It's like we are the ginny pigs. We pay a lot of Money for the RV's and ae also doing their research for them.

Thanks for your take...
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I agree about the poor quality of RV's and Trailers. Also the sales people are for sure the worst ever...
that's the truth ! things won't change until the customers demand a change .i' disappointed the the 29 xlr quality but noting that can't be fixed . i just should not have to do this on a new unit . like bundle and secure wiring running under the unit . it;s just poor workmanship and poor engineering
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