Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-11-2015, 12:48 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
schrederman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Weatherford, TX
Posts: 966
RV Quality?

I'm no authority but I do know quality when I see it... and I believe I know crap when I see it. I am a licensed aircraft mechanic (A&P) but i do not work in that industry... because IT pays better. So enough about me... just so the reader knows I'm not affiliated with the RV industry in any way other than as a consumer.

I went to the Tarrant County RV Show yesterday at the Ft. Worth Convention center. Sorry to say that I didn't any improvement in quality over my first travel trailer that I purchased 5 years ago. There were a couple of bright spots but just a couple. Their price tags reflected that improvements in quality would definitely come at an increased cost. To me, that's understandable and OK... to a point. What I noticed was, as the quality improvements went up, the price increased exponentially. To top that off, the appliances and all were the same. Really?!?! Again, I come away from this feeling disappointed. Will this industry ever come up to a better standard?
__________________

__________________
J & D in Lovely Weatherford, TX
2016 Jayco White Hawk 28DSBH TT
2014 Ram 2500 Crew Cab 4X4 6.7L Cummins
schrederman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 01:01 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
rattleNsmoke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Western Connecticut
Posts: 1,564
Short answer....Nope. Not as long as people continue to purchase the new crap coming off the assy line.
__________________

__________________
2010 Cedar Creek 5th Wheel 34SATS "The Beast"
2006 Ford F350 Lariat 6.0L Diesel
2003 Harley Heritage Softail "Hogzilla"
1988 Harley Softail Custom "The Fireman"
1986 Marriage to "Wifey" (patience of a saint)
rattleNsmoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 01:12 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Phinias's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 158
I once was a Top Salesman for a Winnebago, Fleetwood, and Gulf-stream dealer. In my opinion unless you spend 400 Gs up you will experience disappointments. (quality control + the challenges of keeping the weight down, along with competitive pricing contribute to ho-hum product) In 10 years they all end being chicken coops in West VA or cluttering the scenic deserts of NM

Why buy one, crazy I guess. (just traded a Pleasure Way that I put ove 100K on)
__________________
Phinias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 01:15 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cobbs Creek, VA
Posts: 201
RV Quality

I 'd have to agree. We've had 3 RV's over the years. As are almost all, they were RV mfg'd on truck chassis; two fords and a dodge. In each case, as you went through the machine you could tell where the frame manufacturer finished and the RV began. Difference of day and night with unfortunately night being the RV folks
__________________
Geri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 01:29 PM   #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by schrederman View Post
I'm no authority but I do know quality when I see it... and I believe I know crap when I see it. I am a licensed aircraft mechanic (A&P) but i do not work in that industry... because IT pays better. So enough about me... just so the reader knows I'm not affiliated with the RV industry in any way other than as a consumer.

I went to the Tarrant County RV Show yesterday at the Ft. Worth Convention center. Sorry to say that I didn't any improvement in quality over my first travel trailer that I purchased 5 years ago. There were a couple of bright spots but just a couple. Their price tags reflected that improvements in quality would definitely come at an increased cost. To me, that's understandable and OK... to a point. What I noticed was, as the quality improvements went up, the price increased exponentially. To top that off, the appliances and all were the same. Really?!?! Again, I come away from this feeling disappointed. Will this industry ever come up to a better standard?


Amen! In my opinion, as long as there are enough first time purchasers as there are now, nothing will change but aesthetic properties and colors of wall coverings and fabrics.

Unfortunately, a new buyer doesn't spend enough time in a model before he buys it to see poor quality.(And you'd need to live in it a while anyway.) It almost, unfortunately, takes buying one, travelling and living in it for a period of time to discover poor quality and to know that next time you won't settle for that particular item!

Also, in my opinion RV/TT salespersons are worse than car salespersons. Our salesman told us whatever we wanted to hear and then later didn't recall ever discussing that with us.

Ever see an RV or TT after a tornado or horrendous traffic accident? If so, I doubt you'd ever buy another one. My wife and I are full timers in a 2014 Puma. We are miles away from a dealer, so most things I fix myself. (Retired home remodeler). In a half year I've spent several hundred dollars. We are building a cabin on our land. When it is finished I will sell the Puma.

We, at one time, were going to buy a Park or Destination model to live in. I've inspected several of those and talked with the owners. They are only marginally better built than what we have. It is very unfortunate.

Sirwriter
__________________
Moved from a 2,000 SF home into a 2014 Puma, about 260 SF. On two acres. We brought in power, water, and installed septic system. We've been here a year now, my wife, myself, and an 80lb female Weim named Daisy. We can barely see our nearest neighbor, one of two.
Sirwriter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 01:29 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
gasman94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Southwestern Mi
Posts: 1,170
Kind of reminds me of the auto industry into the 80's. It took foreign competition to make the industry produce better products. I'm surprised with the current demand that's out there, that there is no real foreign competition yet.

Rich
__________________
gasman94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 02:17 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Phinias's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 158
They all have eyes when you buy them. When the honeymoon is over is when you know. Like I said, "I sold them" I wasn't blind by any means. i knew exactly what I was doing. The coach will deliver the pleasure that i expect.

I remember when i bought my first house. I had a professional inspector do the walk-through. i had paid 29,000 for a new single home (gives you an idea to my age) i mentioned that the quality was disappointing for a 29K home. He replied, " had you spent 80,000 all you would have received was a bigger pile of crap"
__________________
Phinias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 03:22 PM   #8
Site Team
 
Platokidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Home of the 2016 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS CHICAGO CUBS
Posts: 5,729
Rv qc curve

When evaluating rv quality its best on a big curve. When I bought my 2013 It was gut wrenching experience of shoddy workmanship.

So we shopped again.... only to back the same mfg, because in our price range they had the best quality.

Certainty nothing to be real proud of.

I think its the first year you have to get all the bugs or pigs out.

I agree, as long as we keep buying em the will keep making em.
__________________

2014 LaCrosse 323RST-TE-C
2009 CHEVY 2500HD Silverado Z71
2016- 92 nights of camping
Platokidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 03:22 PM   #9
ARLO
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: N Chili, NY
Posts: 502
We had 3 starcraft popups 71,77,84 that were very good. 4 tt's that were very good, 2010 flagstaff, 2000 sunline, 1995fleetwood prowler and 1991 coachman. Our 1989 Mallard and 2006 holiday rambler were totally junk. Our only 5'r, a 1999 wildwood was so bad we only kept it 10 months.
__________________
rlocicero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2015, 11:13 PM   #10
Site Team
 
Platokidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Home of the 2016 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS CHICAGO CUBS
Posts: 5,729
Back in October this interview with Peter Liegl was in RV business. (Page 73)
Per Liegl said "business is utterly phenomenal. 4 billion in sales versus last years 3 billion."
Hopefully they will reinvest some of that in quality.
RVBusiness, September-October 2014
__________________

__________________

2014 LaCrosse 323RST-TE-C
2009 CHEVY 2500HD Silverado Z71
2016- 92 nights of camping
Platokidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
quality

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:25 PM.