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Old 07-14-2016, 05:11 PM   #41
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I can say the fit, finish and quality is as good but IMO better in my 2015 Columbus then it was in my 2010 Sabre.


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Old 07-14-2016, 05:53 PM   #42
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Zero Quality control

We are fairly new to this lifestyle, but have friends that have TTs Fivers and MHs. I kind of knew what I was getting into, but it has opened my eyes to a total lack of quality.
My take on the manufacturing end of the equation is this, does it "kind of work", ship it out.
The dealer gets it, does his minimal precursory PDI with a "yep most of it works".

Then the final consumer, who has laid out enormous sums of money, is the "quality control" Nothing as it should be, things that make you wild, things that end trips, and things that make you wonder what the aptitude test is for those at the manufacture.

The consumer then takes it back to the poor befallen upon dealer , who gets ripped and has to go the manufacture for all the warranty work.

And the consumer sits at home fuming as his repairs take 2 months.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:24 PM   #43
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My forester is coming back from a cross country trip. The friends using it are total newbies but they have copious amounts of cheater notes written by yours truly. They are going on three weeks and not one phone call, not one complaint and not one issue. Just lots of quick chat updates and facebook posts as it should be. That has to speak to the quality of the rig at some level. That being said I did have to replace a worn vent lid, a torn slide out topper and a camera that died due to a seal failure before their departure date but none of those items had anything to do with the construction of the vehicle and all to do with wear and tear (and some to bonehead maneuvers).
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:41 PM   #44
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I'd have to agree with most that the article said.

Numerous problems have plagued my unit.

Why, just last weekend. I was sitting on the bed, looked down where the wall meets the floor, and saw daylight.

I think if the factory just cut back a half dozen units a day, they would catch a lot of the problems..


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Old 07-14-2016, 08:22 PM   #45
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Earlier this year I had a chance to visit with a FR factory rep at an RV Expo. While we were talking inside one of the RV's we both continued to notice little quality issues on the interior. Loose knobs or trim panels, excess gobs of caulk around a sink, things like that.

He made the comment that he couldn't believe the dealers would put their inventory on display in that condition.

I bit my tongue but wanted to say I couldn't believe the factory would ship their merchandise in that condition.

Antecdotal, but it reminds me of the boating industry in the 1990's. High demand for a product produced by manufacturers focused on increasing revenue and reducing costs shipped to a somewhat renegade dealership network focused on increasing revenue and reducing costs........"quality" was a foreign concept.
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:52 PM   #46
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I would love to meet a rep and show them my unit.


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Old 07-14-2016, 08:58 PM   #47
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Hopefully ~~ when the next recession cuts the number of units ordered hopefully one or more brands will focus on quality control. The same for the component manufacturers. I believe they would find enough of us are willing to pay for a quality unit that is serviced properly.
My 5er is in the shop now. In 50 nights and 3000 miles nothing has been found with the build in 7 months. Had a furnace problem Atwood took care of quickly with a mobile tech. Now it seems the controller is bad and ate a battery.
What I would like to see is more, many more, campgrounds being built and expanded. From my experience, campsites are still in the '70s as far as size and numbers. Units are much longer and have slides that require more width as well.
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Old 07-14-2016, 10:53 PM   #48
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Hello Mr Havercamp,

To address one comment you made. Some of use enjoy the comraderie of actually sitting in the Fairground with some really great people! Many who post here on daily basis. I can call many good friends now that we enjoy the time we spend with each other in the very same packed hot Fairground even if there is a muck pile or overturned golf carts close by.
Fair enough and I have no problem with that whatsoever. I attend a few rallies with another group but they tend to be in wooded areas with few hookups. I do not remember saying that anyone that attends that event were not great people. I guess that saying, and I am taking the liberty of combining some sentences from that post into this quote "I find the appeal of that interesting also. I did not buy a Rockwood Roo because I am in love with Forest River or want to join some group. Personally the last thing I would ever want to do is be packed tight into some wide open Indiana fairground, in the middle of the hottest month of the year, but if that's what floats your boat have at it. I certainly do not expect anything for free as that's never been my style." in response to Igray's post, comes across as a personal attack or an attack on that event. If so I apologize. I find it amusing that the ones who flamed me never commented on this 3 day old thread until I made that post except one, but whatever.

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As far as the article the guy who wrote it has no idea what reality is, I too have read his diatribes in the past.

Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion and I respect that. But over on his site, in the comments to his editorials, he has some interesting commenters who agree with him, that must also have no idea what reality is. An owner of a KOA, an apparent soon to be small scale RV manufacturer, some RV techs, line workers, a dealer, people who have been in the industry for 20/30 years, and a number of owners who agree with him. I guess he could be making all that up and posting it himself in support of his editorials, or those commenters are not who they say they are. Interestingly his comment section is wide open for anyone positive or negative, and he responds to them also.
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Old 07-15-2016, 01:30 PM   #49
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he didn't write anything we don't all ready know .
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Old 07-15-2016, 01:44 PM   #50
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the voice of reason bus apparently just showed up.
here's a question for you . Why does the manufacture think the dealers Techs should diag a unit for free under warranty ? this is one reason i will never do warranty work nor work for a dealer . the flat rate does not cover the diag time .
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