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Old 11-24-2016, 07:30 PM   #21
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FR is small potatoes in Warren's portfolio actually. His big one is BNSF. I have no issue with Warren tending the reins. He's an astute businessman and always has been.

If we all followed his financial advice, I suspect we'd all be better off.

One thing for certain, with Berkshire Hathaway on the front end, capitalization is a non-issue.

I knew where the money trail was before I considered an FR unit and it was one reason I bought one.
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:49 PM   #22
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Peter Liegl was CEO of just another sinking RV manufacture during the Great Recession. His leadership was rocked with much internal scandal and many questions of his personal ethics and allegations of misconduct.It had become so bad, he had announced his planned retirement and named his successor.He was all but out the door, when Warren/Berkshire rode in as a white knight and bought FR, he quickly rescinded his retirement and fired his planned successor, civil suit soon followed.

BH bought FR in 2005 at the height of the boom, not during the recession. The industry in 2006 had slightly more sales than 2005 and it wasn't until this year that sales will finally exceed the 2005 level again. Facts are facts.


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Without doing any research on this thread,isn't or wasn't Marcus Lemonis involved in FR at one time?
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Old 11-24-2016, 11:52 PM   #24
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Without doing any research on this thread,isn't or wasn't Marcus Lemonis involved in FR at one time?
Camping World, not FR.
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Old 11-25-2016, 12:18 AM   #25
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Ok - thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 11-25-2016, 02:40 AM   #26
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Warren Buffet has to be one of the most respected business leaders in the world!
He is very involved with the businesses he
buys and operates . His business model
always promotes a quality operation over
profit draining.
Forest River sets that model of trying to
manufacture a quality product
at a "fair"
price and take care of the customer when
at all possible and within reason.
It is unfortunate your experience has been
so negative.
Much better to actually do it 99% of the time than to "try" and do it.

Sorry, but the entire RV forum world will tell you they are not trying hard enough. A visit to any RV show or dealers lot, as long as your eyes are open and you look closely, will also tell you otherwise.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:12 AM   #27
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Much better to actually do it 99% of the time than to "try" and do it.

Sorry, but the entire RV forum world will tell you they are not trying hard enough. A visit to any RV show or dealers lot, as long as your eyes are open and you look closely, will also tell you otherwise.
FR is average to slightly above average in the quality department. They are better than average in the customer support, at least in my experience. I have owned several different RV's over the years, with the last two being Thor products, zero customer support when I tried to get information from them. I also had a Fleetwood at one point. (Remember them?)

Is there room for improvement? Absolutely I don't know a company in the world today that doesn't have room for improvement of some sort.

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I'd love to be able to own one of those $250,000 fifth wheels that comes with all the defects fixed, and made to last 20 years without changes.
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FR is average to slightly above average in the quality department. They are better than average in the customer support, at least in my experience. I have owned several different RV's over the years, with the last two being Thor products, zero customer support when I tried to get information from them. I also had a Fleetwood at one point. (Remember them?)

Is there room for improvement? Absolutely I don't know a company in the world today that doesn't have room for improvement of some sort.

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I tend to look at this entire Industry as a whole now days. When we had our Thor products and were dealing with Dutchmen (a few years back when they still maintained a little independence), the customer service and communication was great. The next trailer, a Keystone, the support and communication was non existent. Right about that time they combined all the support under the Keystone service division. Both of those trailers, a 2011 and a 2013 were a notch above our current 2017 Roo in my eyes when it comes to build quality. I can't say anything bad about Rockwood support, what little I have used it. Now Lippert is another story.

Yes, I remember Fleetwood.

This whole Industry needs an eye opening.
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FR is small potatoes in Warren's portfolio actually. His big one is BNSF.
You got that right. Shipping costs by rail for oil from the Dakota's is $10-15 per barrel vs. $5 via pipeline. Shortage of pipe lines is one reason to ship by rail but another big one is railroads are against more pipelines and we all know how politics has held up building those new and needed pipelines.
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