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Old 07-03-2015, 09:33 PM   #1
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Canvas slideouts

I am considering a hybrid camper that has two beds which extend from the front and rear of the trailer. These are made of canvas (not the bed) and was told that some state parks with bears will not allow this type of camper in their park. They are concerned that the bears will rip the canvas side out searching for food and may injure or kill you. Has anyone heard of some state parks not allowing hybrid trailers?
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Old 07-03-2015, 09:42 PM   #2
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I am not sure about state parks, but some National parks such as Glacier and Yellowstone restrict their use in certain campgrounds due to grizzly bears. I think the best way to find out for sure is to call the specific state parks you might use.
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Old 07-04-2015, 04:48 AM   #3
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first, there's a LOT of misinformation out there about this.

most is hearsay and not factual.

Glacier NP does NOT have a ban on hybrids or popups in their major campgrounds. we camped there in our hybrid a few years ago and no such ban existed.
Yellowstone only has ONE campground that has a permanent ban on soft-sided campers, Fishing Bridge CG.
and if you "turtle" in your hybrid, you can camp there.(turtling is sleeping in your hybrid without put the canvas tent ends out)
all YNP's other major campgrounds allow hybrids and popups. we also camped there a few years ago and had no problems camping at Madison, Grant, Canyon and Mammoth.

we have been camping in state/national parks, in our popups/hybrid, for over 27 years and have NEVER had any issues camping there.
even in Yosemite, which we've camped a number of times, there weren't any bans on hybrids or popups.

i've challenged many of those that make claims like these, to provide info about other campgrounds having permanent bans on hybrids/popups and only FB in YNP is the only one they've been able to provide.

some may temporary bans, due to some recent bear activity.

second, hybrids don't have canvas "slideouts". popups do.
hybrids have bunk door platforms that drop down like a ramp or truck tailgate.

danield, by the way, who were those that made these statements, RV dealers?
they would have to include tents and popups in such a ridiculous claim.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:36 AM   #4
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hybrid-expandable beds

I talked with two dealers in my area when I was looking for a TT. Maybe they were trying to sway me away from the Hybrid trailer to another TT with their statement about not being allowed in state parks. Anyway, I was looking at a Flagstaff Shamrock 21DK and a RPod RP176T. Their queen beds are classified as expandable beds which fold up into the TT, and are not slide outs. I guess the best approach will be to call the campgrounds I intend to stay in prior to going there to inquire about their policies concerning tents or Hybrid Trailers. Thanks for your comments.
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:51 AM   #5
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#1 newbie mistake, believing the dealer
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Many use statements like that, to move buyers up to more expensive RVs.
Some use it because they don't carry hybrids.
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:06 PM   #6
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Just a little more info for you:

Hybrids are not for everyone.
Most hybrid owners are former popup owners, but want more amenities and less setup/take down hassle.
And they want to continue the sleeping under canvas experience.

It's often said that if you're not in love with sleeping under canvas, maybe a hybrid is not for you.
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I looked at those same 2 models. I love rpods like crazy but I am amazed how much more you get in the 21dk. That is the one I chose and it wasn't close. The 21dk turtled gives you as much room as the rpod, the bathroom is huge compared to the shower closet in the pod, the beds are larger...the list goes on and on. Obviously if you have tow limitations that is another story but the 21dk is barely any longer to tow.

Bikendan had great insight and should definitely be considered. I just wanted to give insight as another shopper of the same models. I am blown away by the dk and have often wondered why I was debating.
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First thing is to post what you plan to tow with.
That will help with any recommendations.
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