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Old 02-09-2017, 10:50 AM   #1
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New Shamrock 233S Tomorrow!

I haven't seen it in person yet so not 100% sure until I can inspect it but as long as it checks out and there are no major problems we will be picking up a 2017 Shamrock 233s tomorrow. We've been inside the similar Roo a couple of times when shopping and then found a great deal on this Shamrock and arranged everything by phone so far.

Just wanted to say thank you to everyone that posts here in this community. I've been reading like crazy over the last month or so and the information here has been extremely valuable.

We currently own an older (2000) pop up camper that we bought used in 2012. We actually absolutely love our pop up. Only reason we are switching to a hybrid is that we believe (hope) that we can have what we love about our pop up but have it be more convenient and easier to set up. Our old camper is quite old also so we were looking to replace it either way.

One of the main things we like about our pop up is that it has no AC and we've almost never needed it. We felt like a regular TT would require AC where we camp in the summer and at least half the time we are dry camping so we just worried it would limit us. Would rather stick with a pop up vs. only going where they have hook ups. We are hoping the hybrid will allow us to operate same way as pop up in the heat- stay out of it during the day, run a vent fan and open windows at night. In Michigan it usually cools off to a comfortable temp at night no matter how hot it is during the day and we also have MANY very pleasant days where you're comfortable with windows open. Even when we traveled down south in the summer we've always managed to sleep pretty comfortably- it just feels like being up off the ground and having all those windows makes it work. If we go south in the summer I will consider the pugs / reflectix stuff and we noticed most camp sites down south have power so we can run the AC then. I've camped in a tent down to -15 so pretty sure I'll be OK in early spring / late fall situations where it might dip below freezing for a couple of hours. If it's any colder than that, we just won't be using our camper. My wife works in outdoor industry so we have pretty good connections for gear and so have many really nice down sleeping bags, jackets, shoes and boots, etc. to be comfortable in any temp.

The other stuff we're excited about with new hybrid - faster setup time with power awning and those easy to drop down bunks, not having to open it up to get to the fridge. I don't mind setting up our pop up camper at a camp site but I hate setting it up at home just to gain access. Having a fridge that is big enough to where we don't need to use a cooler all the time and having a freezer will be great. A bathroom will open up some more dry camping options for us at some places we really like but they just have terrible pit toilet situations that are very unpleasant to deal with.

I will miss the gas mileage with our old pop up and the roof mount four position bike rack is great too. I also appreciated how frugal it was with battery power with no parasitic load whatsoever.

Some of the gear to go along with it:

TV = Silverado 5.3L with tow package (9500, 1475 payload). Passenger tires but they're fairly heavy duty with higher payload rating than most. I added extendable mirrors and Tekonsha P3 brake controller myself recently but have never used it. Going with the Blue Ox weight distribution hitch with built in sway control. Slightly worried that setup won't be ideal right from the dealer (they special ordered it for me and so probably don't have much experience with it) and it looks like 20-30 mph gusts of wind tomorrow when we might be driving back with it. Considering taking back roads at slower speed and staying off the interstate. Dealer is a bit over an hour away via expressway. 1.5 hours using back roads. I might also just leave it there and come back in a couple of days when it's not windy.

Will be purchasing a dual battery box for two 6 volt golf cart batteries. I have solar and will be adding a bit more to that as well. Our old standard single dual purpose battery worked fine with small solar panel for us but I didn't have any parasitic draw on our old camper so now thinking I need more solar power and more battery capacity with new camper. Goal is up to a week of dry camping using very little power - led lights, maybe some fan use, water pump- that's about it. Or a two or three night stay in moderate temps where we will run the furnace some at night.

Well thanks again to everyone that has contributed here. Hopefully as I learn about the new HTT I will be able to contribute some as well.
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:23 AM   #2
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Welcome from Wisconsin and congrats on your 2017 Shamrock 233s. Make sure you do a thorough PDI tomorrow.
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Old 02-09-2017, 12:28 PM   #3
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congrats on your new trailer and good luck with your pdi. Just don't let them rush you and everything will be great.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:47 PM   #4
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Picked it up today and everything went really well I think. The only thing I found that I thought needed attention was that all of the tires were inflated to exactly 40 PSI and it seemed to me they should be at 50. They didn't disagree and had someone put some more air in them. Otherwise everything I looked at seemed to be working and in good shape.

Dealer was not familiar with the Blue Ox SwayPro WDH - they were listed as a dealer but when I ordered it they informed me it was a special order item that they didn't normally stock so I kind of expected it might be new to them. The guy hooking up the trailer clearly had not read the manual or learned how it worked at all but he was nice and didn't try to BS me like he was an expert or anything. We figured it out together with his knowledge of general WDH hitches and what I had learned in my research about that particular model. Had I not been prepared though, it would not have been set up right at all.

I was worried about the drive home as it was windy today- 20 mph with gusts up to 30 - kind of a combo of cross wind and head wind. New trailer, new brake controller setup, new WDH- just a lot that could go wrong along with my inexperience so I was nervous. I really didn't notice much sway at all though, just a little bit sometimes when a big bus or semi passed but barely noticeable and not every time. I have never used any other weight distribution hitches though so I have nothing to compare it to. My wife took a nap though and I just used cruise control and one hand light touch on steering wheel was all I needed to keep it straight down the road. My takeaway was - "yeah, this isn't going to be a problem at all". I kept it to about 63 and my truck didn't seem to be laboring too much though gas mileage was low with that wind- about 7.8 MPG. Closer to 11 once I got off the expressway with a little more favorable wind.

When I got home I noticed the water heater cover was flopping down, no longer latched in place. Actually my wife noticed and said "they must not have closed it properly" and I had to admit to her that I had opened that on my own to look inside at one point and didn't understand how the closing latch worked- figured it out easily once at home, ooops. No damage though.

When I went to unhook the WDH I lifted it up quite a bit with the tongue jack but forgot to actually feel the chains to see how tight they were before using the tool to release the tension. First one caught me a little bit by surprise at how easy I could get it over the hump vs. how violently it let loose after that. I guess I thought I would notice that they were loaded as I tried to release them. This is after reading all about this from other people on this and other forums as to what not to do. I wasn't injured at all but it was startling enough to where I don't think I will repeat that mistake again.

I disconnected my battery manually to keep it from getting drained in my yard. I noticed a battery disconnect switch and I meant to test it to see if it turns off all of the parasitic devices. I don't mind if it's not a complete disconnect - leaving power for brake tether or other switch operated things like the slide- but I need to make sure it shuts off the detectors and radio memory and anything else that will kill my battery when it's just sitting there. If anyone else knows answer to this let me know.
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Glad to hear things went well!
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Congrats!! We are looking at purchasing that same trailer. Do you mind sharing how much you paid? Prices online seem to be all over the place.
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Congrats on the new Shamrock! We need some pictures! I too came from having a pop up and after having the hybrid we feel they are the perfect camper. You get the tent ends to open during the day and the amenities of the larger TVs.

I am not sure how your 233s is when folded but our 23ws is great to use while traveling. We like to have lunch in it and have stopped to rest and use the bathroom. Once you get set up at your campsite they are cozy and have a lot of useful amenities like the stove, fridge, shower, tv, radio etc. I am chomping at the bit here to get playing with and using my Shamrock. Enjoy!
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Congrats!! We are looking at purchasing that same trailer. Do you mind sharing how much you paid? Prices online seem to be all over the place.
I sent you a private message.
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Glad to hear things went well!
Thanks!

Hopefully we will be making a trip out to your area at some point- Looks like it's too big to go on the ferry across Lake Michigan though!
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Congrats on the new Shamrock! We need some pictures! I too came from having a pop up and after having the hybrid we feel they are the perfect camper. You get the tent ends to open during the day and the amenities of the larger TVs.

I am not sure how your 233s is when folded but our 23ws is great to use while traveling. We like to have lunch in it and have stopped to rest and use the bathroom. Once you get set up at your campsite they are cozy and have a lot of useful amenities like the stove, fridge, shower, tv, radio etc. I am chomping at the bit here to get playing with and using my Shamrock. Enjoy!
Well it's snowing on it now but I'll try to get some picture when we get it set up later.

We thought about the positive of being able to stop somewhere and have lunch in it - I think that's going to be great when traveling. On our last camping trip with the pop up we stopped to grill some hot dogs at a road side park and discovered the ketchup was in the little fridge inside the camper. No chance I was going to set that up after just taking it down just to get it! Turns out salsa isn't too bad though!
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