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Old 06-18-2013, 11:30 AM   #31
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That's a good summary Scott. For what it's worth, I have plenty of storage space in our 23SS. Obviously not apples to apples to your 233S, but IMO storage is an important consideration in any TT decision.

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Old 06-18-2013, 11:46 AM   #32
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That's right, Tom. The 23SS that you and Bikendan have has tons of storage space.

The 233S (not so much). It means we use a lot of duffel bags and have to store our stuff in the aisle or on top of the table or couch while traveling. Its a drawback with the 233S.

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Old 06-25-2013, 10:35 AM   #33
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I had a class A winnebago. No finer way to float down the interstates. However, few campgrounds worth going to are on the interstate. On back roads, it would wear you out. It was always a stressful drive. Once set up, its was somewhat comfy, but too snug (no slides). The config of the queen bed and closets didnt allow me to put my arms anywhere when I slept on my side. Never really had a 'good' nights sleep in it, although I had many delightful naps on the couch in the driveway.

Sold it, bought a big coleman PUP with a dinette slide. Loved the open, roomy feeling in it (yes, it felt roomier than than a 30 foot winnie). Also loved the feeling of sleeping in a tent, without the feeling of being beat to death upon waking. Disliked being unable to do anything in it/to it without doing the whole set-up routine, and the utter lack of storage.

Found the Roo and for me, it is the best of both worlds. I can stock the fridge and stow provisions at will. Sleeping under canvas with the breeze and all the sounds of nature is the essence of camping. If i wanted to sleep in an insulated sound-proofed box, I'd go to a Holiday Inn. People complain about the set up time of hybrids, but it only takes about 5 minutes more than a standard camper. Is it really that time consuming to open two latches, drop the bunk, insert the shepards pole and push the hoop up?

But with all that being said... What is right for me probalby wont be right for you. That's why RV manufactures make so many different configurations. You have a wide variety to choose from, its only natural to think that it may take you 2 or 3 before you find the perfect one. I wish I bought the Roo first. Some people wish they never bought one at all.

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Old 06-25-2013, 11:01 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by bikendan View Post
the 25RS is not a Hybrid. a hybrid TT has to have canvas ends, like a popup does.
your trailer is an Expandable but has no canvas, therefore is not a hybrid, combining a popup with a travel trailer.

rear hard-sided bed slide TT's are no different than regular TT's except the slideout is on the rear instead of the slide.
Forest River finally had the sense to move them to the regular TT section, instead of the Hybrid section on their website.
Finally!! somone that truely sees us as we are , problem is that they still keep grouping us together whether on trailer websites sales/forums...we keep forgetting who we are
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:30 AM   #35
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We bought a 2009 jayco 23j in 2011. Love it, great floor plan , big slide out, plenty of room and comfort.we didn't have an issue keeping cool but one time down in co springs were it was 101 degrees for three days straight! We love the idea of the canvas (never had a leak issue) and being able to open up and it being outdoor like.its tows easily and has a full bathroom. That being said our family is growing and need more room. We now have our hybrid up for sale and bought a 5th wheel.

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Old 06-25-2013, 01:28 PM   #36
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We started out with a 21SS ft hybrid Starcraft Antigua. We bought it brand new 2 mo before our 3 yr was dx with cancer. Needless to say, it was in storage or occasionally parked in the backyard for a yr. We were excited to finally use it, but it always seemed too hot or cold or pouring down rain when setting up/taking down. Since it was our 1st camper we loved it, but it didn't have much storage. Upon campground arrival, the 2 kids were always anxious to get their bikes & take off, but we were stuck setting up, making beds, etc. We upgraded to a used 29 BHS (?) Heartland Sundance 5er, then have since upgraded to a bigger bunkhouse (4bunks) with an outside kitchen & TV- Wildcat 312 BH-OK. Of course, our TV over the yrs changed from Toyota 4-runner to a Tundra to a now GMC 2500HD turbo deisel. Bigger camper, lots of storage & space for everyone, including kids friends, when we allow them.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:11 PM   #37
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Our first camper was a Jayco Kiwi 23B, that we bought used. We camped in it for three or four seasons, on a seasonal site, and loved it! I think it was layed out better than our 27HFS, and had more room in the living area. I have camped in it during deer season, in below freezing weather, with the bunk ends open, and never had an issue heating it, or keeping it cool in the summer. We were at our site almost weekly from Apr to the end of Oct each year, so it got more than it's fair share of use, and we never really had any issues with anything. Set up, and tear down was never really an issue, granted we were already parked and leveled on site most of the time, we still needed to open the bunk ends, and that was a breeze. Would I buy another one.....Yes, if the right deal came along. In fact, I almost did. Was thinking it would be a nice second camper to have when family came to visit us at the campground, but then I started to think about the hassles that would be involved with owning two campers, and backed away.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:34 PM   #38
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No regrets here. We have the Roo 23SS. Have had a few issues but nothing that would make me want to get rid of it. AND we camp a LOT! I hadn't kept up my counts....... as listed below..... but the most so far has been 145 in one year!

AND yes they have all been in the Hybrid. Love having two separate Queen beds. There have been a few issues with small leaks.. but only when it has been in an absolute downpour! I mean BUCKETS! Normal rain.. no issues.

Would I buy another YES! The only issue that would cause me not to would be my health. There is still some work to it letting bed ends down and setting up. That's a given with this type camper. But I absolutely LOVE having the room inside that we do with such a light weight camper.

And I might add that we have camped from March till up in December and no issues with heat/cold.

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Old 06-30-2013, 05:57 PM   #39
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Just don't go anywhere near grizzly bear country. Some campgrounds won't even allow anything with canvas to camp.
We just came back from Yellowstone, and they were having lots of bear problems.
Otherwise, they do offer a lot of advantages.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:09 PM   #40
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Just don't go anywhere near grizzly bear country. Some campgrounds won't even allow anything with canvas to camp.
We just came back from Yellowstone, and they were having lots of bear problems.
Otherwise, they do offer a lot of advantages.
this is stated all the time. but rarely has anyone actually posted the name of the campgrounds that supposedly have this policy. the few that are posted are usually back-country campgrounds that RV's can't get to.

Yellowstone is most often mentioned, regarding such a ban, yet the ONLY campground in YNP that has a permanent ban on soft-sided campers, is Fishing Bridge.
Bridge Bay CG, which is virtually across the road from there, has no such ban. in fact, soft-sided campers are allowed in every other YNP campground, except Fishing Bridge.

now, there might be a temporary ban due to bear activity but that would also ban tent campers.

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