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Old 05-22-2012, 10:18 PM   #11
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Hi Mary,
I know it's got to be a little disappointing. If you keep the Acadia there are lighter trailers to consider that are very good. Or, maybe you do want a more tow-worthy vehicle and a used 233S would fit the bill. Good luck in your search.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:23 PM   #12
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Enjoy the process (the best you can).

We went hybrid shopping and ended up with a much bigger 'traditional' trailer which forced us to buy a much bigger (as in cost, fuel consumption) vehicle and even then it's borderline spec-wise.

Had a customer in tonite with a ford diesel with oh, just a few mods..he's aiming for 800 hp. He says he can (and has) towed just about anything, including pull sleds in competition. His next upgrade is $3000 for new injectors to hit his 800 goal. Of course, he sheepishly says around town he gets ~6mpg.
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Thanks for the responses, we are looking at all our options. My brother has a Ford Expedition which he likes and we could save money by trading our Acadia in which could go towards our trailer purchase. I really like the more traditional self enclosed trailers as well, so that would give us more options to choose from, or, just have the peace of mind knowing that we are not at maximum capacity with what we have to tow. Any way we go, I hope to get out this season. Since we have been looking, my other brother bought a Class A, his father in law sold his 5th wheel trailer to his son and he and his wife purchased a Class A (they are retired). Don't mind being the runt of the litter, just dont want to be left behind.

Enjoy the summer everyone! Hope to get more help down the road as we continue our search. Mary
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:10 PM   #14
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Have fun with your search, Mary.

I think you're doing the right things (for what it's worth).

Your asking good questions and keeping your options open. Post away and keep us updated.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:32 PM   #15
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We had a 05 Trailblazer and were seriously considering the 183. It is a great camper for its size and RV Direct quoted us just under $15k for a custom ordered one this spring. With the beds all folding out, it leaves a good bit of space for the livinf area, plus the storage seemed to be quite good as well. We traded up on TV and were able to do the same on TT. Choosing the right trailer is probably 75% of the battle lol. Happy hunting!
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:22 AM   #16
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Acadia + Coachmen 21 TQX

Hello,

I am a new member to this forum with a very similar situation... we also have a GMC Acadia (2011), 2 kids age 7 and 9, and are seriously looking at Coachmen 21 TQX. Absolutely love the layout. We have a pop up now, which has been no problem for the Acadia. We can't upgrade the trailer and vehicle in the same year, so we were hoping to use the Acadia for a couple more years with this (possibly) new trailer. All the posts above have been very helpful to us in making plans - thank you! We went to the Changingears site and did the calculations, and intend to drive as lean as possible (no water, wood, bikes, waste water, etc.), but are planning to go long distances (possibly 2000 miles round trip) for a few weeks in the summer. What I am wondering is...

* any other advice for such a situation (weight and tow ability)?

* any suggestions on where to locate a fair and reasonable price for the Coachmen 21TQX? With the hybrids being so new, it seems there is a range of prices available on the internet, but no steady way of determining the "going rate." I could not find anything on NADA, and I'm not sure how to approach any negotiations. I like the dealership, but feel like I am going in blind without some research to back me up. If they are not too flexible on the price, are there other things I should look into asking them to add (i.e., maintenance service, covers, etc.)?

Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

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Grady,

1. i believe your Acadia has a towing capacity of 5500, IF it has the factory tow package? does it?
2. that 5500 number is rated with only a 150lbs. driver in it. anyone or anything else in it, will lower that number by its weight, including the WDH.
3. the main issue will be the trailer's tongue weight. with a fictional "dry" weight of 430lbs., loaded for camping and with the WDH, it'll probably exceed the max hitch weight of the Acadia.
4. not sure what you mean about hybrids being "new". they've been around since 1998.
5. as far as price, Coachmen sells very few hybrids, so it will be hard to find prices on them. i would get prices for the Roo 183 from RVW and RVDirect. the 183 is a similar floorplan and can give you a ball park amount.
6. i'm not sure if you'd be able to wait a couple of years, pulling this trailer with the Acadia. pulling a full-height trailer with a mid-sized SUV will not be fun.
7. it helps if you specify what area of North America you are.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:26 AM   #18
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I have been reading this forum for a while and it has been very helpful. I was hoping to get some advice on hybrids for us to pull with our 2010 GMC Acadia. We are a family of 5 (mom, dad, kids 7 & 9, and our australian shepherd puppy). I am a researchaholic, and have a handful of floorplans I like (3 bed pop outs), my husband wants space, I want more storage. Does anyone have any advice for me . . . looking at the Roo 183 / 233S, Surveyor SP224T & Coachmen 21 TQX. Thanks in advance! Mary
I have a very good friend that downsized to the Acadia for mileage. They tow a 23 ft boat with a gross weight on trailer of about 4600 lbs. It does not tow well. The Acadia gets pushed around quite a bit by the boat, which is of course longer than the Acadia. Add to that the wind resistance of a travel trailer and I am afraid you will not enjoy your towing experience at all.

I think you mentioned your husband previously owned a pop-up. When looking for our first trailer we looked at both hybrids and pop-ups. We ended up with a high wall pop-up, specifically this model:
Flagstaff Tent Pop Up Camper by Forest River

you will notice that is has most of the same creature comforts as the hybrid, but is much smaller and easier to tow. Our plan was to tow with a heavily modified Jeep, more power than your Acadia but similar wheelbase.

We felt that we were much better off in the pop-up for ease of towing. The hybrid was nice, but as we discussed it, it really did not give that much advantage over the pop-up. The interior floor space was still quite small for a family of four plus animals. The beds were smaller than a pop-up and you still had to open it and let it dry if you ever put it away wet.

The pop-up also weighed MUCH less. It would be far easier for your Acadia to tow. Also much easier to store etc. And finally, was much cheaper. Here is the outside kitchen model (which we would have gotten if it was available back then) for comparison.
Flagstaff HW27KS High Wall Pop Up Fold Down Tent Camper Outside Kitchen Shower Toilet

Just throwing out this option as well.
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Hello,

I am a new member to this forum with a very similar situation... we also have a GMC Acadia (2011), 2 kids age 7 and 9, and are seriously looking at Coachmen 21 TQX. Absolutely love the layout. We have a pop up now, which has been no problem for the Acadia. We can't upgrade the trailer and vehicle in the same year, so we were hoping to use the Acadia for a couple more years with this (possibly) new trailer. All the posts above have been very helpful to us in making plans - thank you! We went to the Changingears site and did the calculations, and intend to drive as lean as possible (no water, wood, bikes, waste water, etc.), but are planning to go long distances (possibly 2000 miles round trip) for a few weeks in the summer. What I am wondering is...

* any other advice for such a situation (weight and tow ability)?

* any suggestions on where to locate a fair and reasonable price for the Coachmen 21TQX? With the hybrids being so new, it seems there is a range of prices available on the internet, but no steady way of determining the "going rate." I could not find anything on NADA, and I'm not sure how to approach any negotiations. I like the dealership, but feel like I am going in blind without some research to back me up. If they are not too flexible on the price, are there other things I should look into asking them to add (i.e., maintenance service, covers, etc.)?

Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

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That is a neat looking trailer, but with a gross weight rating of at least 6,000 lbs, it is pretty heavy for your Acadia.

Just curious, what is the driving force to go from your current pop-up to this trailer?
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:45 AM   #20
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YOu need a 30' trailer and a dually cummins 3500 truck.

See..we started wtih a little popup and wanted more comfort, less setup and were thinking hybrids as well. And mid size SUV (explorer).

Hybrids cost more (new) than a full TT and require setup like a popup (or close to it). So for the weight, price, convenience we opted for a 26' TT. I mean, only 3 or 4' longer than a hybrid so what's the big deal? It even had a big sticker inside "small suv towable"!

Sticker from the factory on the door says it weights 5335 lbs. We bought an expedition which is 'rated' at 8900 lbs. Easy peasy, right?

Nope, not even close. Certain options on the ford reduced tow capacity, add people, gas, hitch, battery/propane and the sundries (food, bath, bedding, chairs, clothes) and suddenly we're at the edge of the TV's GCWR!

We just bought a new silverado 1500 -with a careful choice of options - and we'll be fine - but still can't put much in the back of the truck or we'll be nearing the GVWR of the truck (and it's got an upped rating!)

Reality seems to be as soon as you get away from popups you need a 2500/three quarter ton truck or you'll be at the edge of things, safety, capacity, reliability wise.

I love our TT and hope the new TV makes longer trips a possibility (we took our pop up all over). A hard side has definite plusses, but it's not 'camping' the way the pop up was.

Our next one will either be a big pop up or a 5vr (and full timing).

Enjoy whatever you get and be safe out there.
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