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Old 08-30-2012, 09:26 AM   #41
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For those of us who were not in the military (but somehow think we were in a previous life due to our penchant for routine and regimen,) please elaborate on what it means to "battle park the truck." It sounds like something I should be doing either with the Jeep or the TV...
Basically you put your vehicle in a position that it is easily accessible, and quickly maneuvered to either provide support or get the "heck out of dodge".

Typically, you will see folks back their vehicles into a space at the rear of a lot with a road behind them (other side of a curb) and a path in front of them so that they can get in quickly and pull out, or if need be, reverse over terrain that is not likely to stop you to "make" and exit.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:33 AM   #42
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Excuse my ignorance......gig line???
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:45 AM   #43
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Excuse my ignorance......gig line???
You must not have been in the military - "gig line" is the military term for having your shirt line and belt buckle in a straight line when in military uniform. If they were not, you were or could be given a violation or "gig".
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You must not have been in the military - "gig line" is the military term for having your shirt line and belt buckle in a straight line when in military uniform. If they were not, you were or could be given a violation or "gig".

Always a civilian, but I do have a gig line now that I know what it is. We civilians can have discipline as well, I guess.
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Always a civilian, but I do have a gig line now that I know what it is. We civilians can have discipline as well, I guess.
True - a lot of the posters on this thread still maintain their gig line and other basic military habits in civilian life.

As for myself - I don't carry many of them over, but I have always thought the military method of keeping tine (the 2400 hour way) is a great way of avoiding mistakes when speaking of AM or PM.
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As for myself - I don't carry many of them over, but I have always thought the military method of keeping tine (the 2400 hour way) is a great way of avoiding mistakes when speaking of AM or PM.
Heh...I have a kind of a mix of the two when it comes to time. Especially in any kind of written correspondence (now electronic correspondence...e-mail, Word document, etc.). I normally do the "Oh Eight Hundred" (0800) for the AM stuff, but do the standard 1:00, followed by a PM for the post morning time. So between 0800 and 4:30pm, I'm at work.

That gig line is a hard one to break though. That and carrying stuff in the left hand, so you're always ready to throw up a salute. But the hair was the easiest for me. I couldn't even tell you how many LOC's (Letters of Counseling) I got for my hair and mustache being out of regs during my career. So within a month of retiring, my hair was over my ears. My mustache also got pretty scraggly. I grew the beard until I had to get serious about starting my second career. But as soon as I got my job and got comfortable with it, the hair grew back and the beard came back. I've had my beard now since November of 2000 and don't have any intentions of giving it up. And I'll keep growing my hair as long as it will grow. I'm just a left-over hippie I guess.
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Heh...I have a kind of a mix of the two when it comes to time. Especially in any kind of written correspondence (now electronic correspondence...e-mail, Word document, etc.). I normally do the "Oh Eight Hundred" (0800) for the AM stuff, but do the standard 1:00, followed by a PM for the post morning time. So between 0800 and 4:30pm, I'm at work.

That gig line is a hard one to break though. That and carrying stuff in the left hand, so you're always ready to throw up a salute. But the hair was the easiest for me. I couldn't even tell you how many LOC's (Letters of Counseling) I got for my hair and mustache being out of regs during my career. So within a month of retiring, my hair was over my ears. My mustache also got pretty scraggly. I grew the beard until I had to get serious about starting my second career. But as soon as I got my job and got comfortable with it, the hair grew back and the beard came back. I've had my beard now since November of 2000 and don't have any intentions of giving it up. And I'll keep growing my hair as long as it will grow. I'm just a left-over hippie I guess.

I forgot a lot of the things you mentioned here, e.g. keeping the left hand free. But one thing I do remember is that I always hated wearing a hat and wasn't one inch outside the base gate on discharge day when it went out the window.

P.S. you didn't happen to live in Azle, Texas at one time, did you?
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But one thing I do remember is that I always hated wearing a hat and wasn't one inch outside the base gate on discharge day when it went out the window.

P.S. you didn't happen to live in Azle, Texas at one time, did you?

Heh...that reminds me of my very last day in the Air Force. I got done checking out from Kelly AFB (before it closed), and as I was driving down the road that went parallel to the flight line, I very suddenly had an overwhelming desire to just strip my BDU's off and throw them over the fence to the flighline. I didn't of course, but that memory is with me to this day.

I never lived in Azle. About the closest I've been to there would be Grand Prairie shortly after my Dad retired from the AF (back in 1974). Sure looks like a neat place though, right there on Eagle Mountain Lake. I have a little 10 acre lake in my back yard...not quite Eagle Mountain, but I like it!
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Interesting stuff...and good reading. Unlike many of you, I tried to distance myself from the military as much as I could. Didn't do much good though.

I get up at 0500, but it's to beat the traffic. As someone else mentioned, I worked too much shiftwork and other odd hours, including flying 14 hour missions that totally screwed up everything.

After I retired from the AF, I took on the philosophy "I can grow it, therefore I will". My hair is long (well, not nearly as long as I'd like, but I DO still have to work!), and I have a beard and mustache. As long as I'm able, I will continue to grow both!

No spit shine, no ties, I do still do the gig line (damn that's a hard one to break!).

I do stand at attention and either salute or hand over heart (depending on the venue).

And I do my date/time format in a variety of ways. Just before I retired (in 2000), the military changed the format to YYYYMMMDD. Really screwed me up. I tried to defy it, and managed to retire before it was too ingrained. So I mostly still use the old format.

Now, all that being said, I don't regret a single day I spent in the military (well, there was a rough spot or two), but I also don't regret getting out. Too much was changing, and I found I could just not keep up with it anymore. IT was time to go. I don't miss it, and am glad I did it. But I am a civilian now.
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