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06-29-2015, 12:14 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pensacola, FL
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Who said "You Can't Take It With You"?
This used to be my Support Vehicle for my Yamaha WR250R.......
After 2 years of heavy travel, I sold it.
I just bought a new T12RBST. A bit of a downsize, but it should still meet my travel needs. I have made a mock-up for a hitch carrier and will be getting the receiver welded on next week.
I am looking to get out West again soon - Hopefully this Fall.
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06-29-2015, 02:29 AM
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Just a member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Great White North
Posts: 921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluepill
A bit of a downsize, but it should still meet my travel needs.
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We thinks you did an understatement.
Nice to see the Yammy survived the umm... downsize.
to the forum!
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K&L + the Wild Bunch
TT: 2011 Rockwood 8293RKSS
TV: 2019 Dodge 3500 SRW Crew HO CTD
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06-29-2015, 03:42 PM
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Happy Keystone Owner
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 636
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Have you given any thought of what you're going to use for counterweight up front?
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'15 F150 Ecoboost Maxtow Scab '19 Keystone Laredo 225MK
Days camped 2020-37 2019-36, 2018-24, 2017-46, 2016 -56, 2015-33,
2014-47,
Years camping....55
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06-29-2015, 10:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pensacola, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbarr
Have you given any thought of what you're going to use for counterweight up front?
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Oh yes. The bike and carrier will weigh about 330 lbs. To counterbalance that, the front gets a Honda EU3000 generator, 10 gallons of gasoline, and a pair of T-105 Trojan batteries for a total of 355 lbs.
That leaves me a bit over 300 lbs for cargo. Most of what I will carry will be in my SUV, so I feel safe about the loading & balancing factors.
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06-30-2015, 06:52 AM
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Happy Keystone Owner
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 636
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That's good. I know what one bag of misplaced laundry did to cause sway in my old pup.
I guessed the bike and carrier was going to be about 300lbs. So I was close.
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'15 F150 Ecoboost Maxtow Scab '19 Keystone Laredo 225MK
Days camped 2020-37 2019-36, 2018-24, 2017-46, 2016 -56, 2015-33,
2014-47,
Years camping....55
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06-30-2015, 06:59 AM
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(Dry Huunday)
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eastern North Carolina
Posts: 2,298
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Now that's awesome!
Welcome to the par-tay!!
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Beau & Sue
FurKid Express
2015 Coachmen Catalina 303RLS
2016 Chevy Silverado LT 2500HD Duramax
The more people I meet, the more I like my dogs!
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06-30-2015, 01:43 PM
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Member
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Posts: 36
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Sorry to be the downer here but have you checked what your axel is rated for on your TT? a extra 700lbs might be pushing it. I have looked at doing the same but a very trusted mechanic of mine warned strongly against it.
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06-30-2015, 02:36 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 34,507
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Someone will own a slightly "scratched" wr250r .....................
Ccc is approx. 1217 lbs
Hitch weight is approx. 283 lbs
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded
2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "11 nights"
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06-30-2015, 08:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Franklin, TN
Posts: 746
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Turns, you have won me over on not adding additional weight on rear bumper, however my last trip trough camper wish land, I noticed that FR is shipping units with the frame extended about 6 inches past rear wall of unit. To this frame extension they are attaching a fold down cargo carrier that extends out 30 inches or so and is attached to the extended frame rails. Did not see a weight limit on carrier which should be a concern I would think! Also noticed on the new Sandpiper 5ers they are attaching a deck that is about 8 feet that attaches to the frame and folds up across the back. When deck is down it does have two cables that attach to the futherest conors of the unit. Has FR started beefing up frames to support these decks and cargo carriers. Does anyone know?
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2020 Georgetown 31L, Safe T steering, Sumo springs, Onan Geny
2015 GMC Canyon 4X4 TOAD w/Blue Ox tow plates, InvisiBrake
Pepper 🌶 PomChi rescue 545 nights as our camping buddy
Days camped in FR 2011-12 = 77, 13-14 = 98, 15-16 = 129
17 = 81, 18 = 44, 19 = 83, 20= 45, 21 = 76, 22 = 57, 23 = 42
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06-30-2015, 08:44 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 34,507
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Possibly on "real" campers.
But definitely not on "ultra lite" , "lite" , a frames, hybrids and pop ups.
My sabre has a fold down rack factory installed.
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08 duramax tuned n modded
2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "11 nights"
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06-30-2015, 09:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Franklin, TN
Posts: 746
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Mod was on Grey Wolf or Cherokee . Trying to get photo on here, does not seem to work.
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2020 Georgetown 31L, Safe T steering, Sumo springs, Onan Geny
2015 GMC Canyon 4X4 TOAD w/Blue Ox tow plates, InvisiBrake
Pepper 🌶 PomChi rescue 545 nights as our camping buddy
Days camped in FR 2011-12 = 77, 13-14 = 98, 15-16 = 129
17 = 81, 18 = 44, 19 = 83, 20= 45, 21 = 76, 22 = 57, 23 = 42
Retired :
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06-30-2015, 09:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Franklin, TN
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Second pic
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06-30-2015, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Franklin, TN
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Thanks for clearing that up, key is factory installed. Just wondering, should we go with newer tt, would be a Flagstaff again. Getting the bug seeing the 2015 models that rollied out, am hearing 2016 should be at dealers shortly. Of course will see them in August in Godhen!
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2020 Georgetown 31L, Safe T steering, Sumo springs, Onan Geny
2015 GMC Canyon 4X4 TOAD w/Blue Ox tow plates, InvisiBrake
Pepper 🌶 PomChi rescue 545 nights as our camping buddy
Days camped in FR 2011-12 = 77, 13-14 = 98, 15-16 = 129
17 = 81, 18 = 44, 19 = 83, 20= 45, 21 = 76, 22 = 57, 23 = 42
Retired :
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06-30-2015, 11:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pensacola, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casual_T
Sorry to be the downer here but have you checked what your axel is rated for on your TT? a extra 700lbs might be pushing it. I have looked at doing the same but a very trusted mechanic of mine warned strongly against it.
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This is my certification tag:
It is based on actual completed weight at the factory with all options installed. I don't expect to carry water - I will use bottled water carried in the SUV for drinking, and use campground showers.
The receiver tube that I am installing is 36" long and will attach to at least 3 frame crossmembers. I may also add reinforcements and/or gussets based on what I see once I get under the trailer for the test fit.
Although the factory rear bumper carries my ample weight without any flexing, I am not using it for weight bearing - that will be carried by the receiver. I will strap the cycle carrier to the bumper for stability - to keep the carrier from teeter tottering. It will also serve as a plan B if the main system fails.
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2019 Coachmen Freedom Express 192RBS
2015 T12RBST Flagstaff Hardside
Disclaimer: The actual value of my "Two Cents" of advice varies just like a bitcoin.
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07-01-2015, 09:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Albuquerque
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Axle Rating
When I worked for the Forest Service, we always ordered our trailers with axle ratings at twice what our load was. It is necessary if you use the trialer much on dirt roads. I broke the axle on my small camping trailer because I didn't follow this rule.
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07-01-2015, 09:47 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mnoland30
When I worked for the Forest Service, we always ordered our trailers with axle ratings at twice what our load was. It is necessary if you use the trialer much on dirt roads. I broke the axle on my small camping trailer because I didn't follow this rule.
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Forest river will not let you order "for the most part" heavier axles.
Unless the factory has an optional axle that can be ordered which isn't very common.
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08 duramax tuned n modded
2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "11 nights"
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07-02-2015, 12:04 PM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: GA
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Then again think about your warranty mostly likly void when adding to rear bumper or frame. Later RJD
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2020 Shasta Phoenix SPF 27RKSS (sold)
2018 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4 3:73 gearing. Traded 2015 Chevy 2500 6.0, 4:10
Traded 2015 30WRLIKS V-Lite
Days camped 2019 62
Days camped 2020 49 days camped 2021-74 2022-40 days 2023 5 days
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07-02-2015, 12:16 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 34,507
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In all cases the frame warranty will be void if there's a hitch installed.
Unless THE MANUFACTURE OKs It, Which They wont.
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08 duramax tuned n modded
2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "11 nights"
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