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Old 03-23-2012, 11:03 PM   #21
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:05 PM   #22
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the other thing i see is your truck only has passenger style tires not LT
another red flag !
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:01 AM   #23
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Something is not adding up here. The dealer is trying to put you into a camper that is almost 100% of your towing capacity - and that's BEFORE you add any passengers or gear.

I don't know what your options are if you've signed on the dotted line, but in one of the documents from Ford that was listed in the links above, it said to verify with the RV manufacturer before towing a 5'er. That might provide you with a possible out if that is what you are seeking.

If you concerned about towing this RV - and it sure sounds like you are. I would suggest that you take your concern to the owner of the dealership and press for a written statement from Forest River that your truck is suitable for this camper.

Another option is to present the numbers to other parties involved in this transaction -- weigh the camper/truck combo and if you are unable to get insurance (or a loan) due to being over capacity - you might have an out.

Ask the dealer to take your rig down to the local 'point of entry' CAT scales to verify the weights -- if the rig is over weight, he'll have fun explaining that to the state trooper.

Good luck.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:10 AM   #24
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Something is not adding up here. The dealer is trying to put you into a camper that is almost 100% of your towing capacity - and that's BEFORE you add any passengers or gear.

I don't know what your options are if you've signed on the dotted line, but in one of the documents from Ford that was listed in the links above, it said to verify with the RV manufacturer before towing a 5'er. That might provide you with a possible out if that is what you are seeking.

If you concerned about towing this RV - and it sure sounds like you are. I would suggest that you take your concern to the owner of the dealership and press for a written statement from Forest River that your truck is suitable for this camper.

Another option is to present the numbers to other parties involved in this transaction -- weigh the camper/truck combo and if you are unable to get insurance (or a loan) due to being over capacity - you might have an out.

Ask the dealer to take your rig down to the local 'point of entry' CAT scales to verify the weights -- if the rig is over weight, he'll have fun explaining that to the state trooper.

Good luck.
Thanks for the message, we are going to see about getting the same unit without the outside kitchen. That alone drops the dry weight to 7865 from 8568. That should give me a little leeway with the carge ie (family-camping material-loaded up trailer). One of our family members has the same type of ratio for their travel trailer and they are using a suburban for that. So hoping i'll be ok IF the dealer works with me.
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:38 AM   #25
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There should be another sticker (same location of the sticker you posted) giving you the payload number for your truck. You have verified the 3850 rear axle and passenger car tires, neither I would want for hauling a large fiver.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:35 AM   #26
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:57 AM   #27
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By removing the outside kitchen, you might get the weight down to the point of being able to pull it. But I would certainly not do it myself. Under perfect conditions, there may be no issues. But add some crosswind and a few semis blowing past, and you will not be happy.
Our fifth is about the same weight, and even our 3/4 diesel gets buffeted. It is not uncomfortable, but I couldn't imagine what it would be like with a 1/2 ton.

My friend has a new Ecoboost and pulls a fifth that is about 800 lbs lighter than ours, and he says it is ok, but not perfect. That Ecoboost has far more hauling capacity than your truck.

And before you put an 'entended pin box' on your camper, just be aware that will put extra strain on the framing of the front end of the fifth. Those frames are known to fail, and increasing the stress in that area is not a great idea.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:50 AM   #28
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By going to the other trailer, you might be decreasing the overall weight some, but the empty pin weight increases. And that is empty, probably without options, and without camping gear. You are probably looking at a 1200 to 1400 lb. pin weight ready for camping.

You are probably going to over the F150 RAWR, GVWR, and GCWR going down the road.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:25 AM   #29
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Ryan I feel bad for you, but trying to fix this by going to the model with out an outside kitchen will not help. Look at the sticker you posted this morning, max combined weight 1451 lbs. That is your limit of the loaded (for camping, not empty) pin weight and the weight of your gas, people, equipment you place in the truck, you are not going to have the capacity to do this with a 1/2 ton and that camper. Here is a good site to get a better understanding of what everyone is saying here as well a a good research spot, and you can take the numbers off you stickers as see exactly what you can pull. BTW forget dry weight it means nothing, in each trailer there is a yellow sticker of the actual build weight as it came off the line, to that you add your gear, propane, water, etc.
http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-...eight-fw.shtml

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Old 03-24-2012, 10:33 AM   #30
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I might have missed it, did you already purchase the 5th wheel?
If not, why are you set on a 5r?
There are several TT with outdoor kitchens that your F150 can tow.
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