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Old 03-24-2012, 10:36 AM   #31
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he has signed for unit but not picked it up yet !
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:45 AM   #32
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There is one other item you may want to look into as well, changing the pin box, or adding and extension to allow for the short bed will change the weight dynamics of the stress points on the trailer frame. As you will see by searching the forum that RV frames are not built to be modified or have additions added. What they are suggesting is done many times, but I would request the dealer to get a written document from the RV MFG that that set up is covered and that the frame warranty will cover any broken welds due to the change.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:20 AM   #33
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With 1451 payload you should think about sticking with a travel trailer. Even with a large TT you will probably be at max payload for your truck. If I had your truck I wouldn't even consider a fiver, but to each his own.
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:30 PM   #34
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Thank you all for your input. I was able to get out of the trailer and had to go with the one without the outside kitchen. Wish me luck!
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:57 PM   #35
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Thank you all for your input. I was able to get out of the trailer and had to go with the one without the outside kitchen. Wish me luck!
With all due respect, I hope you don't think that just because you got the 5th wheel without the outside kitchen, that all your issues are solved. By the time you load your camper and truck ready to travel, you are still going to be over your truck's tow capacity AND payload capacity. Great, you lightend the dry weight by 700 lbs by eliminating the outside kitchen, but as mentioned dry weights are meaningless. That 5th wheel is going to be over 9200 lbs, and probably substantially over when you are loaded for camping, not to mention the pin weight is going to eat virtually all of your 1451 lbs of payload, leaving very little if any payload to account for passengers, dog, gas, camp chairs, grill, kids toys, etc.

I hate to sound so negative, when you obviously have your heart set on this trailer/truck combination, but for you and your family's sake, I hope none of your trips are more than 10 miles from home. You are going to be whiteknuckling each and every trip, your truck is going to struggle big time, and it's just plain unsafe. By no means am I a card carrying member of the weight police, as I could care less what another person tows with or camps in, but since you wisely came here and asked for opinions, all I can say is there is no way I would jeopardize my family's safety like that. There have been several responses in this thread, and I don't believe I have read one opinion that says you will be fine with this combination. You simply do not have enough truck to safely handle that trailer, bottom line. I do wish you luck my friend, but IMO you are going to need much more than luck on your side...
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:58 PM   #36
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With long deliberation. We went with a 2012 premier bullet 33' TT. model 31bhpr.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:22 PM   #37
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Congrats and best of luck. The bright side is now you get to use the bed of your truck.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:52 PM   #38
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With long deliberation. We went with a 2012 premier bullet 33' TT. model 31bhpr.
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I think you made a better choice with this one vs the two 5ers you looked at previously. At 8,000lbs, that GVWR is much more in line with your half-ton. Have fun with your new TT!
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:26 PM   #39
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With long deliberation. We went with a 2012 premier bullet 33' TT. model 31bhpr.
Beautiful trailer! We had a Keystone previously (not the same model as yours) and we never had any issues with ours.
Looking at the specs on the Keystone website, the GVWR is 8000, and hitch weight of 795, although the length is listed at 35'4". Still, those numbers are much better suited to your truck compared to the 5th wheel you were looking at, though the hitch weight is still gonna be close to 1000 lbs when loaded, so your payload capacity of 1451 is going to be exceeded (assuming you have kids since you got BH model), but not as much as you would have been with the 5th wheel. Make sure you get a good WDH, LT tires, and maybe even consider some airbags. Itís a much better choice of camper for your truck than the 5th wheel. Curious as to how the conversation went with your dealer when you negotiated away from the 5th wheel and into the Bullet? Did the dealer still insist your truck could handle the 5th wheel?
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I think you made a smart move. You may have been able to pull the 5th wheel with an F150, but I'm pretty sure that your transmission would have made sure that it was not for very long.

I did the math two months ago and I thought I could have done it too, but my families safety was more important and I decided to move up to a F250. I now pull without any worries about weight, making the trips so much more enjoyable!
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