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Old 07-20-2016, 10:06 AM   #11
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I hope these "Hang Tag Rules" do Not apply for "Fire and Rescue Trucks"! Youroo!!
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:07 AM   #12
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It is part of the problems of the world now... realizing most people are honest, but the ones that aren't are causing the problems. It chaps me to think the ranger would even have the gall to "enforce that rule" when the repair man is there to work on something. I watch too many cop/robber shows where there is a "set-up" to look legit. It would be a fact that if they were "casing" the place they WOULD get a tag to ensure a successful heist. I dunno. Live and let live and enjoy life cause it's too short.
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:11 AM   #13
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In the OP's case, probably all that would have been required would have been a trip to the rangers office and the repair would have most likely been approved. The rule is to keep somebody from moving in and rebuilding a complete unit onsite for multiple days. Small repairs such as tire changes, etc. to get someone back on the road are usually allowed without hesitation.

If you read the story, the ranger went out of his way to accommodate the OP by letting the OP state that the repairman was a 'friend' changing the tire. He could have immediately stopped him from working and sent him out of the park, but he didn't do that.
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:19 AM   #14
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I am going to play a little devils advocate here. as I can kinda see the parks point....and from a liability standpoint. Without the car tag, then tow truck driver is not a guest of the park... and most likely would not be covered by any general liability policy covering park guests....for damage suffered or caused by same tow truck driver doing whatever he may do.

You then would think that the tow trucks insurance would kick in to handle damages suffered or caused by the driver while in the park, but here again this could be tricky, and may be why the park would require pre-authorization for commercial business conducted on their property. A prudent property manager would verify the commercial business had insurance and would cover any damages suffered or caused by same........ since the propertys liability insurance most likely has a disclaimer against commercial business activities on site.

It's really not a whole lot different than you having a party at your house, and one of your guests decides to change his oil in your driveway. He hires a mobile oil change guy, who then accidently spills the oil which contaminates your yard and then it also runs down into the storm drain contaminating the water. You allowed the guest on your property, but not necessarily the oil change guy, who you just found out forgot to pay his last months insurance and it got canceled. Now they are all kind of fines, as well as damage to your yard. Your homeowners insurance company won't pay, as they say their policy doesn't cover commercial businesses on your property. See the mess that can be just beginning here.

Many people here, may have also never been involved with what happens when a roofer you hire, hurts himself on your roof, then you find out his boss didn't have workers comp. This guy can come back on you, and many many court cases have went against the homeowner...who is liable for all lawful activity on his property.

The parks are no different, and are liable for all lawful activity occurring on their property. if they determine that they need to approve all commercial business done on their property, or even require that all guest are properly tagged with their vehicle...so that they are covered insurance wise...then I wouldn't really get upset. I would actually expect such.

You can now throw all the rocks you feel at me.
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:33 AM   #15
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Well wmtire..... That is a pretty good target!!! 😀. I agree that most rules are there for a reason and should be followed when possible. But your liability scenarios are one of my pet peeves and demonstrate to me the 'sickness' of our legal system. That's my 2.5 cents. Have a good day!
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Old 07-20-2016, 12:28 PM   #16
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I also totally understand the liability cause... i worked for a large corporation for 10+ years. I understand the parks point of view. The problem is the world we live in.... crooks and sue happy people.
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Old 07-20-2016, 12:48 PM   #17
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I think the park ranger handled the situation perfectly! He covered his butt, wasn't a hard ass, and sort of followed the rules while using common sense.

To the poster who suggested that a letter be written to the state office, why? Is your purpose to get an accommodating ranger in trouble? Everything ended well. The tire was repaired, the RV owner was happy, and the ranger did his job.
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Old 07-20-2016, 01:04 PM   #18
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If you read the story, the ranger went out of his way to accommodate the OP by letting the OP state that the repairman was a 'friend' changing the tire. He could have immediately stopped him from working and sent him out of the park, but he didn't do that.
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I have had visitors and packages delivered to state park campgrounds with no difficulty but proceeded each with a visit to the ranger station to let them know what was going on and get anything I was required to have.

Glad the Ranger was doing his job!
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Old 07-20-2016, 02:01 PM   #19
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While extending the stabilizers on the fifth wheel at Leasburg Dam State Park, New Mexico, I noticed a nail in the trailer tire. We tested and there was a slow leak. We called Good Sam Road Hazard to come out to change the tire out for the spare tire. Since I'm new to rving, it was the first time calling anyone. A tow company came out in an unmarked pickup truck and while changing the tire a ranger came by to let us know didn't have a 'day use permit sticker/hangtag' displayed in the repairman's pickup. I naively explained that we had to call a tow company and we'll go back to the entrance and get the hang tag. It turns out you are not allowed to have commercial businesses on state property without prior authorizations. The ranger was kind and we agreed the fellow was a friend who came out to change the tire. In this case, we alternatively could have hooked back up and moved the trailer out to the highway (since it was a slow leak) but isn't there a possible scenario where one might need to call a mobile rv repair person to do some sort of repair while camped there? Or am I being overly worried and one can usually wait to have repairs done at the next campground? And does it seem that this rule only applies to some states and not all? Should I have checked with the ranger first to find out what process needed to be followed? Any ideas on how to plan for this are appreciated (including if I should not worry about it at all.)
I don't understand why so many people are busting this ranger's 00's. The way I read it that the ranger was more than helpful. Last time I checked, most state parks charge for day use along with camping fees. So questioning why the guy did not have one would fall under doing his job.

Maybe the driver didn't stop at the entrance to explain what he was doing and just drove through. The ranger probably would of let it go then. He did not stop the process of changing the tire nor did he make them tow the tt off state property to change the tire.

If a letter to a superior is needed, it would be to let them know how the ranger was understanding and accommodating. JMHO
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Old 07-20-2016, 02:23 PM   #20
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Sounds as if your ranger may be one to throw some authority around. Otherwise, he was being a complete jerk. I'd never return to that campground and I'd let his superiors know why. Situations such as yours are why people are stressed to the max. You needed help, we're getting help and still had to get a shakedown. As mentioned in a earlier post, in Arkansas, most rangers would have escorted the service truck to your site.
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