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Old 12-20-2013, 08:54 AM   #41
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Steel trailer rims require using a finger adapter when mounted on the tire balancer. They are stud centric, using the studs to center the rim on the axle. The rims are stamped steel and their center hole is not necessarily concentric. Reputable shops that do tire work should have these adapters, if they know how to use them is another question.
Aluminum rims can be balanced without the adapters as their center hole is concentric due to the manufacturing and machining process; however, if it's a large rim, i.e.16", it would be wise to use the adapter to provide better support when the rim is mounted on the tire balancer.
THANKS! I knew I read that somewhere.
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:56 AM   #42
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We were told that balancing the coach wheels were not necessary as they are aluminum 18" pieces. Never really went along with that idea, thinking before we leave for Alaska next summer to get all balanced off the coach and install the nitrogen!
Definitely get them balanced, but the consensus is "Pass" on the Nitrogen. MANY threads here on why.

Unless you are the space shuttle, NASCAR driver, or a Concord, inflight/post crash fires are not a big concern for you.

Do Nitrogen-Filled Tires Enhance Fuel-Efficiency?: Scientific American

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Old 01-10-2014, 11:27 AM   #43
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East Texan,

We have an XLR toyhauler with Provider tires. I have attached a photo. As you can see, the tread peeled right off the thing. Luckily we were in traffic and only going about 30 mph when it happened and the guy next to us let us know. The tire still had air in it when we pulled over. But by the time we got stopped we have over $1000 damages not including the tire.

Supposedly the Provider is made by Taskmaster and are available at Discount Tire. Pricing is as follows:

Provider - $130
Carlile - $138
GY Marathon - $139
Maxxis - $178

I have used the Maxxis and GY before and of course Provider - no failures with the GY or Maxxis. The Maxxis is heavier, stiffer and has 3 ply sidewalls compared to the other tires which have 2. I have decided to go with the Maxxis. More $ but am hoping no more trouble.

Forest River has not responded to any of my emails! I have a call into them now, but no return. Do they care???



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Old 01-10-2014, 11:35 AM   #44
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rickfox, when I contacted the maker of my tires about a tire issue that I was having, I was referred to contact Lionshead tire since they were the supplier to Sabre. I'm not sure if they're the same for XLR.

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Old 01-10-2014, 11:43 AM   #45
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East Texan,

We have an XLR toyhauler with Provider tires. I have attached a photo. As you can see, the tread peeled right off the thing. Luckily we were in traffic and only going about 30 mph when it happened and the guy next to us let us know. The tire still had air in it when we pulled over. But by the time we got stopped we have over $1000 damages not including the tire.

Supposedly the Provider is made by Taskmaster and are available at Discount Tire. Pricing is as follows:

Provider - $130
Carlile - $138
GY Marathon - $139
Maxxis - $178

I have used the Maxxis and GY before and of course Provider - no failures with the GY or Maxxis. The Maxxis is heavier, stiffer and has 3 ply sidewalls compared to the other tires which have 2. I have decided to go with the Maxxis. More $ but am hoping no more trouble.

Forest River has not responded to any of my emails! I have a call into them now, but no return. Do they care???




IMO this is a supplier problem not FR unless you think they should use the more expensive tires based on the premise that you will have few if any problems.

You really need to contact the tire manufacturer about this and file a report.

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
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Given information from Tireman9 (a tire engineer) - we need to make sure we're filing NHTSA complaints for these things.
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:21 PM   #47
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Am I'm fixing my TT due to a separated tire, switching over to a 215/75-14. Went to get the other tire from shop to change that tire out dang it was separated too. Least it didn't come apart. These where Maxxis m8008 date code of 0410.
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Old 01-10-2014, 05:32 PM   #48
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East Texan,

We have an XLR toyhauler with Provider tires. I have attached a photo. As you can see, the tread peeled right off the thing. Luckily we were in traffic and only going about 30 mph when it happened and the guy next to us let us know. The tire still had air in it when we pulled over. But by the time we got stopped we have over $1000 damages not including the tire.

Supposedly the Provider is made by Taskmaster and are available at Discount Tire. Pricing is as follows:

Provider - $130
Carlile - $138
GY Marathon - $139
Maxxis - $178

I have used the Maxxis and GY before and of course Provider - no failures with the GY or Maxxis. The Maxxis is heavier, stiffer and has 3 ply sidewalls compared to the other tires which have 2. I have decided to go with the Maxxis. More $ but am hoping no more trouble.

Forest River has not responded to any of my emails! I have a call into them now, but no return. Do they care???



I appreciate the reply, I will definitely be getting the replaced.
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:29 AM   #49
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Has anyone had any success contacting the tire manufacturers? I have sent an email to Taskmaster but no response yet. My question is why would Taskmaster care about me since they make their money from FR - not me.

Our previous trailer was a 2006 Montana, that had the infamous Tireco tires. When these tires started failing, Montana did their part and assisted its customers in getting the tires recalled and replaced. To say that the trailer manufacturer is in no way responsible for the vendors THEY select may work in the short run, but word gets around when manufacturers use substandard materials in the manufacture of their products. By the way, Montana has the No. 1 selling product line, in part I believe, because they have a desire to provide a good product that they are willing to stand behind.

As an FR customer I expect FR to treat me as I was treated by Montana when I was their customer! After all, I bought the trailer from FR, not some China based 3rd tier tire manufacturer.
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After all, I bought the trailer from FR, not some China based 3rd tier tire manufacturer.
EXACTLY. Mine is at the dealer right now for a tire/tire wear issue. Will see how that goes.
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